Some people have a certain ability to hear sounds better than other people. That's where the audiophile term comes from. I consider myself an audiophile. It is what it is.
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What do gamers actually think about Ray-Tracing?
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Caporegime
True and that said, I can certainly discern the difference between say a Lynn Sondek turntable and a high end CD player but, in so far as playing PC games, I found a sound card a waste of a Pci lane.
From my experience, it's the amp stage that makes the biggest difference, especially high resistance headphones, eg Sennheiser hd600 at 300ohm sound better on a dedicated amp vs motherboard. However, on the other end, easy to drive headphones probably won't benefit. Eg ie800s iems will show its full capability on just about anything. I'd guess most gamers use easy to drive hp and probably wouldn't benefit much from a more powerful amp. I do however much prefer hardware bass boost over software, so an amp with a good bass boost is my choice.
The only thing that seems to do HDR correctly for PC gaming is the Steam Deck OLED.. Would you believe ... Windows and Microsoft....
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I'll still be more impressed by raster games that allows you to kill all light sources within the game world, make darkness... dark. Cyberpunk fails terribly at that.
Soldato
Techpowerup has a new poll out.
Next-Gen GPUs: What Matters Most to You?
With next-gen GPUs arriving on the horizon, we're wondering. What are you most interested in? Do you want more performance, RT? Better upscalers or just lower prices?
www.techpowerup.com
Raster still holding very, very strong on the main selling point for purchasing a next gen gpu.
However RT performance is now in a commanding 2nd place position followed closely by pricing, energy efficiency takes 4th spot with vram favoured over upscaling which is last on anyones requirements for next gen gpus.
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Considering that in a growing number of games, RT is the main gfx setting that most people can't max out and really tanks performance, it's not surprising it has high support. Upscaling and FG are closely connected to RT and are needed to raise fps especially in RT games. I suspect its percentage is so low is because the people voted once, and chose RT. They probably wanted to click both RT and Upscaling/FG.
Techpowerup has a new poll out.
Next-Gen GPUs: What Matters Most to You?
With next-gen GPUs arriving on the horizon, we're wondering. What are you most interested in? Do you want more performance, RT? Better upscalers or just lower prices?
Raster still holding very, very strong on the main selling point for purchasing a next gen gpu.
However RT performance is now in a commanding 2nd place position followed closely by pricing, energy efficiency takes 4th spot with vram favoured over upscaling which is last on anyones requirements for next gen gpus.
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Soldato
Perhaps, perhaps not, software RT'ing is here(and not getting pushback like hardware RT'ing did/is) but more so it is not reliant on upscaling to run.
One could also surmise that vrams considered way more a necessity than upscaling if you wanted to click both raster and vram.
But, at the end of the day the poll is called What Matters Most To You...
Which makes raster is still the main reason to upgrade with upscaling the least reason to upgrade.:thumbsup:
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Caporegime
Techpowerup has a new poll out.
Next-Gen GPUs: What Matters Most to You?
With next-gen GPUs arriving on the horizon, we're wondering. What are you most interested in? Do you want more performance, RT? Better upscalers or just lower prices?
Raster still holding very, very strong on the main selling point for purchasing a next gen gpu.
However RT performance is now in a commanding 2nd place position followed closely by pricing, energy efficiency takes 4th spot with vram favoured over upscaling which is last on anyones requirements for next gen gpus.
Interesting to see that almost no one cares about Upscaling and yet reviewers treat it like added value for Nvidia...
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Associate
again this is a flawed question, "what matters most for you" can only have one answer - these amateur reviewers need to go to a university for a crash course on market research
My overall point is that this type of question and 1 answer survey is very flawed.
RT is unsurprisingly a very distant 3rd in that poll after raster and power efficiency. Like most I like RT but it’s a nice to have rather than a must have. Though realistically putting it third doesn’t mean it’s not important at all of course.
For me in order of importance for my GPU consideration. Like most there a lot of factors that determine choice. Unfortunately I ignored point 1 when I purchased a used 4080 which was massively overpriced for what you get. Great GPU at a joke price.
1. Price
2. Raster
3. Cooling and noise
4. Efficiency
5. VRAM
6. RT
7. Upscaling
For me in order of importance for my GPU consideration. Like most there a lot of factors that determine choice. Unfortunately I ignored point 1 when I purchased a used 4080 which was massively overpriced for what you get. Great GPU at a joke price.
1. Price
2. Raster
3. Cooling and noise
4. Efficiency
5. VRAM
6. RT
7. Upscaling
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I see RT as 2nd not 3rd in that poll. Power efficiency had a lower vote than RT.
Edit, didn't realise there was a live number. I find it surprising that power efficiency is almost as important as performance. My gut says this is an example of a flawed question and 1 answer format.
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Associate
another big flaw is target market definition, you dont go about asking gamers about the perceived utility of instancing feature in a GPU that question is typically aimed at developers
a utility isnt just consumed by the end consumer, its a very bad assumption for a survey about graphics card features
a utility isnt just consumed by the end consumer, its a very bad assumption for a survey about graphics card features
he's probably talking about the live results.
need to remember that the majority of people voting for power efficiency are miners. the average gamer does not hold efficiency above all else
You can’t arbitrarily decide one set of votes don’t count just because it doesn’t fit your specific needs. The poll was about GPU buyers and for many power efficiency can be important. Where did you get the stat that the majority of people wanting efficiency are miners? Or is it per chance made up?
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You are 6k posts deep in this forum and you actually believe that efficiency is on par with the top other trait for gaming performance?
Why is it hard to understand I am saying that other people have different priorities. You or I don’t get to decide what someone else votes on a survey, we just get to look at the results.
Are you going to provide your sources for why you think people who voted for efficiency are mostly miners and that most gamers don’t care for efficiency?
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What a bizarre first line. On the contrary, "Why is it hard" for you to communicate like a civil human being and not react like every word that contradicts you, directly or indirectly, is an existential attack on you? It's an absolute displeasure reading your toxic tone in every post, then later to see you u-turn and claim you were always aligned with the topic despite mocking it, and claiming everyone else just doesn't understand where you're coming from. You are not that deep.
Again, do you really believe efficiency is such a priority for gamers? Use logic. I suspect you know better and just cling on to the the numbers since it's an extra point score for you in the context of this thread.