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What do you think of the 4070Ti?

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Trickle said:
I think the opposite, but wouldn't see myself as likely to want what younger people do. Don't like console games (the exclusives) and prefer to sit at a desk with kb/m for most stuff. And I need a PC for other things anyway. I like my Epic free games and cheaper game prices.
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That's coming from a limited understanding of what's on console these days.

Games aren't really more expensive and if disc versions are bought then you can sell them on once completed.

I own most platforms and consoles are carrying pc right now. If you're basing pc on indie games, then yeah any old pc from 10 yrs ago can run them.
 
Chud_Jenny said:
The "OC" tax is back. Non OC make the £799/$799 cut and will be gone then £49 for the same card for 30MHz quoted boost extra. (2610MHz vs 2640MHz)
So 6.25% more money for 1% boost clock, bargain. This is now standard practice.
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With the 3060 Nvidia sold the gpu+ram to the AIB partners for $5 under the MSRP. This left them $5 for a pcb + cooler + packaging + profit? if they wanted to hit the MSRP. Of course that was unachievable which is why the 3060 has never sold at MSRP.

With the 4000 series NV have gone one step further and not only sold the package to the AIB partners with very little margin for profit but also limited the max price they are allowed to sell at, this is why EVGA told them to get lost.
What this all means is that , using Asus as an example, there will be a limited amound of non OC versions sold at MSRP and then the bulk will actually be OC versions above MSRP where they can pay for the cooler and earn some profit. Gibbo has said OCUK has ordered 500 Asus Tuf £800 versions that they will use in their prebuilt systems, how many of that version ever come to the open market who knows.

This is entirely on Nv so do not blame the AIB partners or the retailers for the price of this product.
 
Haz123 said:
With the 3060 Nvidia sold the gpu+ram to the AIB partners for $5 under the MSRP. This left them $5 for a pcb + cooler + packaging + profit? if they wanted to hit the MSRP. Of course that was unachievable which is why the 3060 has never sold at MSRP.

With the 4000 series NV have gone one step further and not only sold the package to the AIB partners with very little margin for profit but also limited the max price they are allowed to sell at, this is why EVGA told them to get lost.
What this all means is that , using Asus as an example, there will be a limited amound of non OC versions sold at MSRP and then the bulk will actually be OC versions above MSRP where they can pay for the cooler and earn some profit. Gibbo has said OCUK has ordered 500 Asus Tuf £800 versions that they will use in their prebuilt systems, how many of that version ever come to the open market who knows.

This is entirely on Nv so do not blame the AIB partners or the retailers for the price of this product.
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Inno3D £799 cards, is our big volume card as it is also pretty small in size for a 40 series.
 
Gibbo said:
No idea but the launch has been superb, nearly every AIB in stock with very healthy volumes, the UK alone has thousands upon thousands of them so don't see any stock issues on this, really good launch stock wise by NVIDIA. :)
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Not surprised. Not much goes into them. Trivial to pump them out at volume with high yields.

Great to hear that there is volume though. As usual, thanks for the insights!
 
Gibbo said:
Inno3D £799 cards, is our big volume card as it is also pretty small in size for a 40 series.
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Good to know some cards will be at MSRP. Hope you are not being squeezed too much on you end. Going to be a tough year for PC sales after these initial launches and I would like all the etailers to survive so we have competition in the market.
 
0h_no_not_again said:
Not surprised. Not much goes into them. Trivial to pump them out at volume with high yields.

Great to hear that there is volume though. As usual, thanks for the insights!
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No problem, though I think the Asus cards are going to sell out today, but we are expecting another large delivery tomorrow on those so don't forsee major issues stock wise, AIB's had plenty of time to prep.
 
Haz123 said:
Good to know some cards will be at MSRP. Hope you are not being squeezed too much on you end. Going to be a tough year for PC sales after these initial launches and I would like all the etailers to survive so we have competition in the market.
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I am hedging on USD getting back over 1.20 on the Inno3D cards, we aint paid for them or landed them yet, otherwise its pretty slim margins once shipping cost are factored in. If pound weakens they will go up to £829 from £799 anyone pre-ordering at £799 will have their order honoured no matter what the pound does.
 
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Gibbo said:
I am hedging on USD getting back over 1.20 on the Inno3D cards, we aint paid for them or landed them yet, otherwise its pretty slim margins once shipping cost are factored in. If pound weakens they will go up to £829 from £799 anyone pre-ordering at £799 will have their order honoured no matter what the pound does.
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I am sure you know what you are doing with this kind of thing. I will let you be the expert on selling gpus after 20 years of experience.

The only experts I don't trust are dentists and brain surgeons. I do all my own dentistry and lobotomies myself.
 
I think at 799 if you can grab one it makes some sense when compared to what GPU's are actually available right now at the price you can actually buy them for...

edit to add - I agree its expensive and shold be the XX60 series, however it beats the 3090 and they are completetly unobtainable at a reasonable price.
 
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Hedge said:
I own most platforms and consoles are carrying pc right now. If you're basing pc on indie games, then yeah any old pc from 10 yrs ago can run them.
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I want to create my own starfield mods like I've done with other Beth games. Warhammer 3. etc etc. I don't think my needs are common though.
 
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