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That sounds unlikely unless you are talking that £599 being ex VAT.
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That sounds unlikely unless you are talking that £599 being ex VAT.
£799 is £665 ex VAT. So I could believe that for the base models.
I'd have thought it would be priced in dollars though and 599 is very round.
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Yep this - RDNA 3 architecture gain is completely wiped out by the chiplet design issues ie the interconnect and crap driver
The majority of the gain is from the node shrink ie power efficiency.
RDNA 3 is DAO.
Rather fitting as the 4070 is a reuse of the 12GB 4080You've just reused the 4080 owners thread image!
Over priced, let it rot on the shelves.
Not really since you can undervolt the 3080 to pull 250w without any performance loss.
25% gross margin before overheads is about right tbf
If we made 25% on components we’d be partying, we get excited when we break out of single digits, lol.
retailers make loads, iv seen 500% markup on cables too.
The UK pricing is as expected - better even - £/$ parity was the norm years ago so for it to still be the case after the crappy pound turmoils and increased distro costs of 2022 is quite a surprise. Gibbo's promise of lots of stock of the inno3d later in Jan is also good. Not saying the price from Nvidia is great, but preventing it from going madly above that is well-played.
Still waiting for news of a non-ti and Navi 32 personally, this 1060 is complaining at MSFS..
Still waiting for news of a non-ti and Navi 32 personally, this 1060 is complaining at MSFS..
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Cables ain’t components but yes huge margins are possible there.
I'm exactly the same. I've waited patiently for over 5 years to upgrade my GPU and at current prices I'll be waiting a bit longer.....
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I think it's probably gonna be a bit more attractive to people who don't already have a £650 GPU (or £700 now for non reference models)... Which is already a lot of money to spend on one component.
The solution to pricing, is ofc for consumers to stop buying RTX 3000 series cards (RDNA2 cards to a lesser extent also). If consumers keep buying them, Nvidia will keep producing and selling them at the same price. They are cheaper to make than the RTX 4000 series GPUs (with 5nm EUV dies) released so far. Or, only buy used cards, at a discount.
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As it should be. When analysing margins across various industries we find that businesses which make under 10% margin are operating in a highly competitive market - most of these are small businesses with fairly limited barriers to entry and new competitors can pop up rather quickly.
Over 10% means there is still decent competition but due to various reasons it's not as good as it could be, usually these businesses are expensive to start up and that limits competitors. This is probably where oc uk fits in
Over 20% means competition still exists but it is even more limited.
Over 30% tends to only be seen in pseudo oligopoly industries or monopolies. Margins are high because the barriers to entry are exceptionally high, often requiring billions to create a new competitor without government intervention. Many businesses in this category own patents to specific inventions or rights to certain resources or utilities that give them dominance
To be clear ^^ these numbers refer to overall business margins, not margins on a single product, obviously margins can vary wildly on a per product basis.
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