If we see a 4060ti at £450, that would put it pretty much at the same price as the 3060ti FE at launch when accounting for inflation, and if it has a 50% improvement on the 3060ti, then it should still be classed as the best bang for buck?
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Such a shame looking at the prices of these latest graphics cards. I remember buying two 470s for SLI and a couple of EK Waterblocks for less than one of these. Oh well, the series x/turret is more than fine for COD and the mortgage is getting overpaid instead.
I'm surprised you even got that for your 3090, didn't you smash it up with a hammer before selling it ?
Seriously now...
You would be mad to sell a 3080 for £500 right now with what is going on in the market.. Anyone with anything higher has zero reason to throw good money on any of these gpus from Nvidia and AMD, if you like feeding the devil and updating every generation then well expect to keep feeding him till he eats you all away.
This generation is to me one of the worst ever I have seen in all my life for pricing. Also this is when I was paying £600-800 for the best gpus over 20 years ago and people were laughing at me back then for doing that and saying buy a console or an all in one pc.
Nvidia and AMD are soon going back to that market style of high prices and low demand as it was all them years back as there were very few into pc's and gaming then and so was expected with the low sales that prices would have been that high but even then we were getting double or more the performance each generation and a generation was only 6 months in some cases to a year not 2 years or more to get 35% on average better performance at now even more silly pricing in the world we live in right now where people can't even pay their bills.
These companies have lost the plot really and anyone that doesn't see that is well blind.
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A man can dream, can't he?
Either way, I'm just glad my 3060ti is still handling 1440p fine 2 years later.
Exactly this .....^
No one is saying to people without a gpu to not get one and being laughed at, it's people with very high end hardware already updating all the time causing these pricing issues and causing these companies to behave that way. Anyone with a broken gpu or any hardware or no hardware to start with just has to suck it up sadly as many of us last generation had to do with the stupidly priced 30 series etc and the issues with scalping,mining covid lockdowns all added to that, there is no issues like that now and of all things peoples wallets are straining with bills and these companies behave this way and take advantage of their loyal customers.
Sorry not feeding these companies while I have functioning hardware no matter how much of an upgrade itch I get as I said in previous post tired feeding the devil.
I'm surprised you even got that for your 3090, didn't you smash it up with a hammer before selling it ?
If he was as rich as he boasts to be, he may well of done, but turned out he is just another pleb in the end
If AMD can get another 10% out of the drivers the 7900XTX is not too bad, it would put it at 90% the performance of the 4090 at 65% of the price.
The 7900XT really needs to be $750, $800 at most
No one knows yet what the price of the RX 7800 and RX 7700 series are going to be, if they keep the £900 for the 7900XT it could be $750 for the 7800XT.
The 4090 was always going to be expensive, its a halo card, the problem is the lower end has been pulled way up in price, especially for Nvidia but right now AMD are not much better.
With the 4070Ti being £900 there is no way the 4060Ti is going to be £450, the 4070 is going to be £750 if not £800, the 4060Ti £600 if not £650.
Nvidia are a lost cause, they have 90% market share and in their mind AMD do not exist.
The 7900XT really needs to be $750, $800 at most
No one knows yet what the price of the RX 7800 and RX 7700 series are going to be, if they keep the £900 for the 7900XT it could be $750 for the 7800XT.
The 4090 was always going to be expensive, its a halo card, the problem is the lower end has been pulled way up in price, especially for Nvidia but right now AMD are not much better.
With the 4070Ti being £900 there is no way the 4060Ti is going to be £450, the 4070 is going to be £750 if not £800, the 4060Ti £600 if not £650.
Nvidia are a lost cause, they have 90% market share and in their mind AMD do not exist.
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So what your saying is, you helped bring about the situation we are in and now the prices have become too high even for you, you are crying
Will be funny if the trend continues and the RTX 6090 becomes £2499. We may see Grim join you
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The buyers remorse is going to be very strong for people paying £800 - £1000 for XX60 tier cards! A couple of months ago I paid £370 for my brand new 3060ti. I felt like it was an average deal at the time. Now you can pay more than double the price for about double the performance of an over two year old card! That is not stagnation, that is regression on price to performance. I am also comparing a 3060ti Founders Edition which is a premium product with a really nice cooler and design. You are paying over £800 for a 4070ti and getting a bare bones PCB with some cheap looking plastic and metal cooler.
There are always going to be mugs who have more money than sense, and people like Gibbo are obviously going to hype up things and put a positive spin on it, but please, don't become one of those mugs. If this is your hobby, you don't have an unlimited budget to pour into it and you don't want to be priced out completely eventually. Just say no.
Ask yourself this, do I really need to upgrade my GPU to play the games I play? I reckon most people will answer no.
There are always going to be mugs who have more money than sense, and people like Gibbo are obviously going to hype up things and put a positive spin on it, but please, don't become one of those mugs. If this is your hobby, you don't have an unlimited budget to pour into it and you don't want to be priced out completely eventually. Just say no.
Ask yourself this, do I really need to upgrade my GPU to play the games I play? I reckon most people will answer no.
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So what your saying is, you helped bring about the situation we are in and now the prices have become too high even for you, you are crying
Will be funny if the trend continues and the RTX 6090 becomes £2499. We may see Grim join you
Not what I said, as there is no upgrade path for me and my system is built for work and need NVLINK as you know.
I'm looking at things from the gaming side here as work systems pay for themselves over time, gaming systems don't as they are for entertainment.
I didn't help with that as I was coming from a 980ti then updated to the pc in my signature. I held out as long as I could and in end with lockdowns and working from home had to update or loose my work. So did I add to it? not really as I was due an update and reality is I didn't purchase them for gaming.
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You know what it is. Nvidia made an absolute killing from Crypto, look at their financials for that period, as soon as that ended their revenues fell off a cliff.
They are ###### determined to make us pay for those revenues, for them its a war of attrition and they will be incredibly stubborn about it. those Ada cards need to be sitting on shelves long enough to collect dust, 80% of everything Nvidia made needs to be collecting dust, they need to be bringing in far less revenue than they would selling them for several quarters, they need to feel it, they need to be hurting badly to change direction, the question is who will flinch first?
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Everyone's got a different upgrade path. And i think the 4080 is 4060 joke is losing context. Right now it's amd with their 7900 is 7700 are obfuscating the market. Theres a strong 90 factor for people deciding between a 4070 ti and 7900 xt
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Thing is, you won't have it but the same applies to AMD! Their GPU's should be even cheaper to make, but they are shafting us with their silly prices
Similar performance give or take raster and RT, similar price.
Yeah they are as bad as eachother, it need to be $100 if not $150 cheaper.
Again tho, if AMD can get another 10% out of the drivers.... i think the 7900XTX is a better card than the 4080 at its price. Right now its not.
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