What have you done to your car today?

[Marvin]

Cleaned it. Set out this morning with the idea of doing the full pre-winter clean, clay, polish and wax, but having only managed to remove, clean and Collinite the wheels (plus clean the wheel arch liners) in about 3 hours I set my sights lower and just gave the car a good once over wash and dry. Naturally, it started hammering it down about 20 minutes after I finished. Oh well.

Before:


After:




I really wish garages wouldn't air-gun the wheel nuts back on:


In the meantime, as always, saw (and heard) some very nice cars come down the road, several C63s (new 4.0L and older 6.2L, estate and saloon), three R35 GT-Rs, two RS6 (including IanH from here), a new V8 Mustang (in red with black stripes) and an E92 M3 with a very nice exhaust.

 

[chaparral]

Either way ill provide a little picture of the kerb that seemed to be the one that does the damage, situated right outside our house:

So that kerb stone sticking out is right outside your house and has damage three of your wife wheels/tyres and you haven't tried removing about 2 inches of ground from behind it and pushing it back in so it inline with the other kerb stones..

Or are these kerb stones fixed in place somehow so that not possible to do....

 

[Vince]

So that kerb stone sticking out is right outside your house and has damage three of your wife wheels/tyres and you haven't tried removing about inch or 2 of ground from behind it and pushing it back in so it inline with the other kerb stones..

Or are these kerb stones fixed in place somehow so that not possible to do....

Post hits the nail on the head. I keep threatening to do it but am not entirely sure if I am legally allowed to, it is outside the boundaries of my property. I also haven't tried to move it all so couldn't tell you if it is properly cemented down or anything. I might even contact the council and ask them if I can sort it.

What's worse is that very curb took out a £300 tyre on my car when we first moved in. Didn't really do much damage to the wheel though.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Where was the fella with the M3 that 'Destroyed' a wheel on his new M3. Is he a bad driver?

I think he'd probably be the first to agree that this was an example of bad driving, yes. If he'd done it a further two times he'd probably need to be thinking about perhaps a Fiesta

How about you Fox? If you destroyed a wheel on a curb does that automatically take you out of some box that has you pinned as a good driver and automatically put you in the box for incompetent drivers?

Again, your word choice prompted your responses. For most people, a destroyed wheel looks like the one on Vox's M3. So do that 3 times suggests a serious issue.

I think you made it out to be worse than it was

 

[Vince]

I think he'd probably be the first to agree that this was an example of bad driving, yes. If he'd done it a further two times he'd probably need to be thinking about perhaps a Fiesta



Again, your word choice prompted your responses. For most people, a destroyed wheel looks like the one on Vox's M3. So do that 3 times suggests a serious issue.

I think you made it out to be worse than it was

I'll give you that but only because I know I am on a forum full of computer nerds that would question you if you said it in the pub. I still can't believe at £15 quid a corner these little 16" meganne wheels are a bargain

 

[Dis86]

Did Vox not do his twice?

 

[Marvin]

Did Vox not do his twice?

I think just the one destroyed. Several kerbed however.

 

[asim18]

It's a good job then that it isn't you or people like you who make any decisions on who can and can't drive in this country, we have a driving test for that.

Yep exactly, kerbing is actually recognised as a fault in driving tests here. Where did you pass your test if I may ask?

Kerbing is, at minimum, a minor driving fault and in many cases will actually be deemed a major fault. And yes, in accordance with the driving test, I don't believe it is acceptable to licence someone who is relentlessly committing the same minor driving fault without any interest nor ability for correcting it, enough that they have managed to destroy three wheels on the same 2 foot long piece of protruding kerb, and then instead of learning from mistakes, gets new wheels instead?

Besides you clearly think you are able to make the assumption that she is a bad driver having never seen her drive, which in itself is pretty impressive.

Does it make somebody a bad driver if they kerb a wheel when parking enough to damage it over a couple of years, even if they stick to all the other laws of the road better than probably the both of us? Or would speeding around the streets of east London looking for your mac10 be a better yard stick of a bad driver?

I didn't actually say she was a bad driver nor did I say how bad she is. I simply stated that I am fed up with bad drivers.

Even though this particular fault doesn't really affect other road users it is still an example of "bad driving" therefore it is not unfair to label the subject as a "bad driver" even though they may be perfectly capable of adhering to most other driving standards and protocols.

 

[Dangerous Dave]

If the kerb is on a public road report the issue to the local council, one of the kerb stones was loose outside my parents and they fixed it within a week.

 

[ianh]

In the meantime, as always, saw (and heard) some very nice cars come down the road, several C63s (new 4.0L and older 6.2L, estate and saloon), three R35 GT-Rs, two RS6 (including IanH from here), a new V8 Mustang (in red with black stripes) and an E92 M3 with a very nice exhaust.

Below the speed limit I hope!

 

[Marvin]

Just before the speed camera on the A229 in Maidstone - so you'll find out soon I'd imagine!

 

[Conscript]

Even though this particular fault doesn't really affect other road users it is still an example of "bad driving" therefore it is not unfair to label the subject as a "bad driver" even though they may be perfectly capable of adhering to most other driving standards and protocols.

I think you're being a bit dramatic. It's more of an example of how a lot of people treat their cars, as nothing more than tools, so aren't particularly bothered about kerb damage to the wheels. Hardly fair to use that as a metric to judge their driving.

 

[asim18]

I think you're being a bit dramatic. It's more of an example of how a lot of people treat their cars, as nothing more than tools, so aren't particularly bothered about kerb damage to the wheels. Hardly fair to use that as a metric to judge their driving.

Did you actually comprehend the part you quoted? I literally said "even though it doesn't affect other people". You make it sound as if she wants to damage her car. Bad driving is not limited to interactional events. Not having the ability to be sympathetic with your car is not particularly indicative of a good driver.

According to your logic, a person who cant shift gears smoothly can still be a good driver simply because it's his own car being stressed??

 

[Voxination]

I think he'd probably be the first to agree that this was an example of bad driving, yes. If he'd done it a further two times he'd probably need to be thinking about perhaps a Fiesta

Yeah hands up there that wheel was destroyed through me running out of talent whilst driving like a pillock. Learnt my lesson though.

I think just the one destroyed. Several kerbed however.

My legacy on this forum is going to forever be the man who isn't kind to alloy wheels This needs to change as my current wheels would be £140 each to refurbish, could get expensive!

 

[Conscript]

Did you actually comprehend the part you quoted? I literally said "even though it doesn't affect other people". You make it sound as if she wants to damage her car. Bad driving is not limited to interactional events. Not having the ability to be sympathetic with your car is not particularly indicative of a good driver.

Not caring about minor damage to your car is not the same as actively wanting to damage it. And I don't disagree that its not particularly indiciative of a good driver, but on the other hand, I don't think it's automatically the sign of a bad one, as you implied.

According to your logic, a person who cant shift gears smoothly can still be a good driver simply because it's his own car being stressed??

Not sure how you've made this leap. Shifting gears is obviously a much more safety critical operation than not scratching your wheels when parking, so yes, if someone can't do it, then it's much fairer to label them a bad driver.

And my comprehension skills are fine thanks...no need for such a condescending tone.

 

[Akagi]

Is minor damage the same as wrecking your wheels to a point where all four wheels are somehow trashed with three damaged so badly that the tyres are losing air, and one "damaged beyond repair", and then having to replace the set?

I'd say not. And I'd also say that if you can't adjust what you're doing so as to not continually whack the curb, you aren't an entirely competent driver.

Occasional minor curbing is a different matter.

 

[Conscript]

Is minor damage the same as wrecking your wheels to a point where all four wheels are somehow trashed with three damaged so badly that the tyres are losing air, and one "damaged beyond repair", and then having to replace the set?

I'd say not. And I'd also say that if you can't adjust what you're doing so as to not continually whack the curb, you aren't an entirely competent driver.

Occasional minor curbing is a different matter.

Again, I would probably agree, but I'm just pointing out that it's a bit over the top to get angry and say you'd tell someone to "get the **** off the roads" simply because caring for their alloys isn't high on their agenda.

 

[Akagi]

I agree that was a bit of an over-reaction

 

[Stormster]

Accidentally bought some Eibach springs and camber bits... oops.

 

[mrk]

Oh dear