What is 'woke' and why do we use it?

[Tony Edwards]

I think the only thing we may learn in this thread is what is anti woke.

 

[ttaskmaster]

I think the only thing we may learn in this thread is what is anti woke.

Possibly because the people who once considered themselves 'woke' no longer wish to be associated with that label?
I'm thinking along the same lines as people named Karen, or Alexa...

 

[mattx4]

Aren't Disney winning that fight?

e: seems we're going for the full on woke battle

Good to see a company standing up for it's 1st amendment right to free speech and taking on big government for overreaching

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

It's not "faux outrage", it's sadness that someone who should know better is, I think, deliberately causing division on the forum with this thread for their own amusement and then claiming thats its really about wanting to "generate introspection" which I believe is utter rubbish and I think that both you and I know that. Well at least I did from the millisecond I saw the thread title and then it was confirmed by your "love" reaction to my "its bait" post.

EDIT - just seen your update -



and you think the best way was to try to tear a tiny section of it apart by asking a question specifically guaranteed to create arguments and anger from people who will never, ever be able to see the others "side" was it???? I think that you only started this thread to create trouble, so you can sit back and laugh at the reactions, thats all and I will be very hard-pressed to change that opinion.

The reason I say that is that, if your claims were genuine, you could have chosen to start a thread on here about anything which could bring us together despite our differences (space, animals, kids etc) and yet you deliberately chose to create this specific thread instead, knowing what would happen. Now I also agree there's lots of great posters on here, however you and I are definitely not one of them for many, many reasons, but at least mine don't include what I see as deliberately trying to cause damage to something I claim to be a cheerleader of just for my own amusement.

If any of that makes it "hard" for you to include me as a good poster, feel free to add me to ignore if you like, I won't mind.

You are literally saying don't start threads that one end of the political spectrum won't like because it will upset them and cause strife. Is that what it has come to on OCUK now? I'm sure we could go through GD and SC and delete lots of threads because one side or the other don't like what it is about. I assume we will never see you arguing for free speech again.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

Good to see a company standing up for it's 1st amendment right to free speech and taking on big government for overreaching

Exactly this. DeSantis and the Legislature doesn't like their speech so they are attempting to bully them into changing their speech. Unfortunately for them they aren't the sharpest tools in the draw and they've been outplayed by Disney lawyers at every turn. Now they will lose in court due to the 1st Amendment too. How much tax payers money will DeSantis waste on this. He is so out of his depth.

 

[dowie]

A family of freeloaders want to see a baseball game without a ticket, the "woke" will come up with different streams of thought re: how to best assist them with freeloading:



Whereas the anti-woke position is to tell them to buy a damn ticket like everyone else.

 

[mrochester]

Equality of opportunity is the key.

The trouble is the feuding sides can’t agree as to whether that already exists, or doesn’t.

 

[D.P.]

Possibly because the people who once considered themselves 'woke' no longer wish to be associated with that label?
I'm thinking along the same lines as people named Karen, or Alexa...

Not really, i am woke and proud to be woke. Every normal functional human should be woke, otherwise you literally are for racism, discrimination, and injustice. Which is why the the word, when used properly is relatively pointless because it essentially means you are not a despicable human. So the value now is more to those who self-identify as anti-woke

 

[D.P.]

Equality of opportunity is the key.

The trouble is the feuding sides can’t agree as to whether that already exists, or doesn’t.

equality of opportunity rarely makes sense though, and is often impossible to achieve.


A staircase is an equal opportunity for able-bodied and disabled people in wheel chairs, but clearly doesn't achieve the desired outcome. A wheel chair accessible ramp and an elevator, while potentially impacting able-bodied people archives the equality of outcome, which is much more important

 

[mrochester]

To make the opportunity to get to a higher floor equal, you provide a means for dis and able-bodied people to get there. You don’t even need a staircase, just have a lift or ramp that everyone can use.

 

[gingergundog]

Not really, i am woke and proud to be woke. Every normal functional human should be woke, otherwise you literally are for racism, discrimination, and injustice. Which is why the the word, when used properly is relatively pointless because it essentially means you are not a despicable human. So the value now is more to those who self-identify as anti-woke

This post seems to go against the point i think Magnolia was making by labelling all the people as you did because they are not onboard with everything the woke movement champions.

A staircase is an equal opportunity for able-bodied and disabled people in wheel chairs, but clearly doesn't achieve the desired outcome.

Doesnt seem like a very equal opportunity.

 

[n111ck]

Not really, i am woke and proud to be woke. Every normal functional human should be woke, otherwise you literally are for racism, discrimination, and injustice. Which is why the the word, when used properly is relatively pointless because it essentially means you are not a despicable human. So the value now is more to those who self-identify as anti-woke

Can a woman have a penis?

 

[Zefan]

What is 'woke'?

Ah yes, the highly anticipated progressive response to the fascist film "What is a Woman?" from Matt Walsh.

Can a woman have a penis?

Taking bets on the terms that constitute the question being treated as something abstract.

 

[n111ck]

Taking bets on the terms that constitute the question being treated as something abstract.

This is basic woke entrance exam stuff - should be easy to answer lol..

 

[C Kent]

Not really, i am woke and proud to be woke.

we know

Every normal functional human should be woke,

no

otherwise you literally are for racism, discrimination, and injustice.

definitely not

Which is why the the word, when used properly is relatively pointless because it essentially means you are not a despicable human.

words and their meaning change, it's now a term of mockery and derision.

So the value now is more to those who self-identify as anti-woke

I proudly reject your religion

 

[darkgen]

So the value now is more to those who self-identify as anti-woke

Is there an allowable space to identify as neither and still subscribe to tolerance and justice for all?

 

[iamtheoneneo]

Can a woman have a penis?

Modern medicine is a wonderful thing...it does allow for women to have a penis if they wish.

 

[mrochester]

Is there an allowable space to identify as neither and still subscribe to tolerance and justice for all?

For some people, yes, for some people, no. For some, tolerance of ‘out-groups’ cannot be tolerated.

 

[plasmahal]

 

[darkgen]

For some people, yes, for some people, no. For some, tolerance of ‘out-groups’ cannot be tolerated.

It would seem some "out-groups" are, characteristically, what would have been considered as societal norms ergo to most would appear redundant and thus identity with, frivolous.