When are you going fully electric?

lol true.... but a self charging hyrid has a fuel tank which you need to fill. If you dont fill that, once it runs dry it cant self charge.

there are self charging cars which exist, and if toyota wants to sell them then massive respect to them.

Not sure where i would put my shopping however. (not being serious btw)

That article you linked to is a good option in very sunny but electricity sparse countries. Not so good for us though, unless they developed high efficiency small solar panels.
 
You made multiple statements of opinion that were based on very flawed anecdotal evidence.

The majority of EV owners will not consider going back to ICE. You have been shown multiple surveys that help prove this beyond “anecdotes”

You stated you believe EVs are a blind alley, this is not backed up by facts as while demand ebbs and flows the trend is increasing numbers of EVs.

You stated hydrogen power was the future. Again facts show the opposite as the number of hydrogen filling stations are dropping dramatically.
They are also being removed as they don’t meet the standards required any longer.
 
It is my experience nothing else. I did not say it was anything other than that.
So people who don’t pay for fuel don’t see the benefit of lower running costs for EV. Rather obvious as I can imagine they are driving a lot and the slow charging vs fuel fill is probably why they are against it.
 
Sometimes when I read this thread I only see this.

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Hopefully when adding more EV chargers to motorway services stations, there will also be changes to make the eating and drinking area's larger as well, which we noticed were stretched when travelling up the M40 a couple of years ago with all the charges in use, vehicles waiting and many taking a 30 minute coffee/burger break.
This was all mid-week in May and July.
 
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on the flip side, all the tax breaks which are given to them to get them to do it does seem a little unfair to the unwashed masses who dont get those opportunities.
Perhaps it is envy on my part but the deals some of my mates are getting are just insane. they pay less per month for a brand new car, with all repairs, insurance and servicing than most of us pay for a 2nd hand car and having to pay for all the upkeep as well. Yes we get to keep the car at the end, but if the leases some are getting cost less than the car depreciation then does that really matter?.
Sad to say, we're in that camp and jumped onto the bandwagon. It would have been daft not to take up the offers available to us.

We're paying a smidge over £500 for an all in inclusive deal that on the open market would cost a 12k depost and 1200pcm (at the time we signed the lease deal) - not including insurance or maintenance. It's utterly unfair.

But these lease deals are a bit different to fleet style company cars where the car is a part of your day to day work and you get all your fuel paid. Certainly mileage allowance wise.
 
Exactly, the kind of person that relies on anecdotes and soundbites instead of doing actual research to form an opinion, lap this crap up.

OMG EV sales are down dramatically... checks data and it slowed rather than dropped. The trend is still up YoY
You can’t have Tesla shipping record EVs and BYD shipping record EVs year on year with decreased demands. :cry:
 
I predicted they would go out of style due to their marmite looks (I think they are terrible looking as is the Ioniq 6). ;)
I love the Ioniq 5 just on looks alone.. the 80s pixel / cyberpunk styling is great..

But I have come to realise I'm in the minority!
 
I love the Ioniq 5 just on looks alone.. the 80s pixel / cyberpunk styling is great..

But I have come to realise I'm in the minority!
I really like them too! In fact, I'd be considering them at this price if I weren't so hooked on getting a Model 3 for the Supercharger network :D
 
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