They are the king of value.
A PS5 is £550. A 4K/60 gaming PC is £2k. The quote I have for my RTX 4090 rig is £4.5k. Its a sad reality that PC gaming is just god damn expensive and poor value. The best value device (if you have a steam library) IMO is a Steam Deck.
PCs are no longer 'kings of value'. They just the kings of ultra high fidelity performance and customisation and offer experiences consoles can't.
I do 4K 3D gaming, triple monitor full fidelity flight sim and sim-racing, ultra wide aspect ratios via custom resolutions and hopefully soon, high fidelity VR.
Console's don't offer that and the experience is unlike anything a console gamer will experience. Other users have high refresh rate gaming on high fidelity graphic settings - agains something console gamers won't realise. Is that worth the price premium? Who knows.. But consoles definitely hold more value than PC IMO.
I think the only console gamers who argued they'd be able to hold and keep 4K/60 were the mindless idiots who don't understand technology. Probably the same idiots who years ago used to argue their console was more powerful than a PC.
No doubt if all you want to do is game then they are king of value, well except maybe when you add up the cost of games.....
This had me curious as to just how much my PC has cost me so far over the past 4 years.
I'm running a MSI b450, 5600x, 32gb ram, 3080, evga platinum 850w psu, fractal meshify c, 2TB NVME (bare bones of what you need) and looking at what I paid, it comes to just over £1k. It provides a far better experience of 60@4k than consoles currently do, obviously it is still £500/600+ more than a current gen console but for my needs/wants, it's worth the extra cost especially when you factor in the price difference of games.
If you want to factor in other things/extras like k+m, speakers, sound card, extra drives then that will add a further £400-500 but these are more luxury/nice to haves.
Do agree though, the pricing of current components if buying
new are crazy but you can build a perfectly capable 4k60 gaming pc if you don't have to buy the latest and greatest.
actually I am one of those obviously very rare people that cant really tell the difference. Not so much that it bothers me anyway.
I have during the last couple of years "discovered" console gaming and have to say I have really enjoyed it.
Just cant find the enthusiasm now to spend the now ridiculous levels of money needed for a new build even though I probably need one. Have realised (with shock) I do most of my gaming now on console rather than PC - which I tend to use for the smaller indie games that dont need the likes of a 3080 to run anyway.
Only thing that keeps me on pc atm is ray tracing (made possible because of the hardware and most importantly dlss), 21.9, high refresh rate gaming and preferring m+k for some games. Only one console game where 30 fps was somewhat good was spiderman but that was largely down to how well they incorporated motion blur.
I know, i pointed that out to you. You value the extra 30fps more than the money because you felt eye strain, other people clearly don't, in fact I'd say you're in a very small minority as not only do consoles outsell PCs but there's also billions of TVs around the world with their 24fps (or whatever).
The going from 30-60 fps here, not 100-130 fps claim is entirely irrelevant to what we were discussing, we're not discussing how good or bad the experience is at X fps, we're discussing the relative value of consoles and PCs, specifically your 3080 and PC for 60@4k vs a console for 30@4k.
Again that is why I said go and look at forums (the console sub forum here being the best to see the enjoyment people got from going to 60), reviews to see the hate that 30 fps gets now that console gamers have got to witness/experience 60 fps, you could even say that is why there has been such a big backlash over gotham knights as it's back to 30 fps with no option for 60fps... had this been them going from 120 fps to 60, the backlash wouldn't have been the same.
The comparison of going from 30-60 and 100-130 is completely relevant here as you get to a point of diminishing returns when you get higher in fps range, 30 to 60 is the biggest leap in terms of a noticeable improvement and more valuable than going from 100 to 130 is, hence why people value the 0.1/1% lows more than the average/max fps when on pc gaming....
