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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?
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Soldato
The pricing of this gen is the nail in the coffin for me and gaming tbh. If AMDs new cards are just as stupid in price per performance, that's it for me. Another 2 weeks to wait until I decide, when AMDs cards are out and reviews in.
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At the point now where I think to make an upgrade worthwhile and to get some VFM you're looking at waiting 2 or even 3 gens. You do have to look for a really good deal too.
Don't let the people who say they need that extra £1000 for R&D, marketing, and staff wages.
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Assuming throwing extra £100~£150 on top per unit for that, the point still stands...Don't let the people who say they need that extra £1000 for R&D, marketing, and staff wages.
Soldato
Yeah agree with above, there will be some leeway for 'reasons' but we all know the cost is way lower than they make out. Some countries in the world dont pay anywhere near what they are charging the UK/Europe.
On the bright side, at least we won't be impacted by this:
www.tomshardware.com
GPU Tariff Exemption Expires December 31, Could Spell Higher Graphics Card Prices
December might be a good time to buy a new graphics card
Wait, are you telling me that when i estimated the bill of materiels for the 4090 last month and then got poo-poo'ed that i wasn't that far off....I'm shocked i tell ya, shocked.Assuming throwing extra £100~£150 on top per unit for that, the point still stands...
Look, this is my shocked Pikachu face.
Where does your £250 price come from? The 'pro' leakers would have us believe that their AIB sources were bleating that they couldn't break even on the £650 3080 release rrp. [source MLID]
Soldato
What it costs nvidia to make and what they charge AIBs (plus the AIB's own expenses) will be two very different numbers.
Of course they may have been lying too. But Nvidia won't be selling them anywhere near 'cost' price.
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I would guess some place like this.
NVIDIA RTX 4080 Allegedly Costs Just $300 to Manufacture on TSMC's 5nm Process Node | Hardware Times
NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 4080 launched last week to a lukewarm reception. The high-end Lovelace GPU offers solid ray-tracing and content creation performance but costs 70% more than its predecessor. This makes you wonder how much money NVIDIA makes off this SKU. A user on Weibo has taken a stab at...
www.hardwaretimes.com
Thanks! Reading that its $300 for chip, memory and PCB. So leaves out shipping, cooler, warranty, retailer costs, Nvidia software costs/profit. They also qualify their figure by saying "Remember that this is a guess based on napkin math".
Seems legit.
Seems legit.
Caporegime
Hey subby TNA. Great news for AMD and us is the pound is slowly recovering. I can’t see why AMD won’t be able to hit £999 on the 7900 XTX if they wanted assuming exchange rate stays or improves. Though Gibbo and ASUS will likely add a hundred or two on top for “reasons”
No one said it did include those things, in fact the post that started this specifically said cost to make.
Even if we doubled that to cover everything you mentioned it still wouldn't come close to the $1.2k asking price, that is unless you think all those things you mentioned cost 3x more than the actual card costs to make.
Those types of posts are completely worthless. No one knows the costs of Nvidia software development. But its plain to see what happens when its neglected. Intel cards = worthless. AMD, years of poor drivers in the previous decade = masses driven away to Nvidia and collapsed market share. Software costs a lot. The other things cost a lot.
Everyone knows the 1250 price is bad and not representative of the true cost to box on shelf price. Nvidia will have known this.
Everyone knows the 1250 price is bad and not representative of the true cost to box on shelf price. Nvidia will have known this.
More worth than your estimate though, and again no one other than yourself said anything about software development, you're more than welcome to provide your own estimation of that though as you seem so interested in it and everything else other than the cost of the materiels.
People have estimated the cost of the materiels that go into manufacturing both the 4090 and 4080, you're more than welcome to come up with your own estimation and how you arrived at it. If you're not willing or aren't capable of doing so then you're ill qualified to dismiss other estimations.
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I would guess some place like this.
NVIDIA RTX 4080 Allegedly Costs Just $300 to Manufacture on TSMC's 5nm Process Node | Hardware Times
NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 4080 launched last week to a lukewarm reception. The high-end Lovelace GPU offers solid ray-tracing and content creation performance but costs 70% more than its predecessor. This makes you wonder how much money NVIDIA makes off this SKU. A user on Weibo has taken a stab at...
Manufacture costs are tiny compared to design costs. It takes many years to design an architecture and costs £billions. It will take a few months to break even.
It's almost like i knew people would try to misrepresent what was said...
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Last year Nvidia made 3bn profit in a single quarter, this year it's down to 1.3bn last quarter (before depreciation and tax) from 6bn revenue while their operating expenses (e.g.inc wages to the designers) are 1.7bn.
They returned 2.5bn to shareholders via stock purchases in the same timeframe
Nvidia are not short of cash and it still doesn't justify charging £1200+ for what was an xx70 class GPU last generation
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