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The thing is, the 4070Ti is physically (in terms of complexity, silicon cost, BoM) the same as a 3060Ti.
The question is, does anyone really care or should care about the specs of the card? Lets say the 5090 is 3 times as fast as the 4090 but it uses the xx6 die. Would you actually care? I wouldn't, for sure. I buy performance, not specs.
Bigger dies have been used as a reason for a price increase in the past so it's perfectly justifiable to expect a price decrease with smaller dies.
I feel you're preaching to the choir, at least speaking personally you are as I'm still using a 4GB RX 570 that i got as a temporary replacement for a broken GPU at the start of 2020 and i ain't going to buy another card, or game, until prices are more reasonable.
Can you give me some examples of that happening in the past?
The answer to all your questions is called "technological progress".
Personally I don't care about the width of the bus or what they name the card. It's all about price. For all I care Nvidia could sell the 4090 for £800 and that would be incredible value but I still wouldn't buy it because I'm not spending £800 on a GPU. So now Nvidia re selling a base spec card for £800 with the 4070ti (I don't care that it could have been named a 4060ti) there just isn't a card that I'm going to buy. And the soon to be announced 4060ti for $500 with the same performance and price of the 3070 is just a massive meh. They're not adding any value it's just stagnating. The consumer is not benefiting in any way with what's going on in the market right now and you can preach about perceived value of the 4070ti in comparison to every other overpriced card on the market today but it's just irrelevant.
But what DIFFERENCE does it make whether they name it a 4060 or a 4070 or a 4010? It's all the same to me, I care about price and performance, not about naming and die sizes. Currently nvidia has the best price to performance card, called the 4070ti. You wanna call it a 4060? Go ahead, but then you are basically telling me that a freaking 4060 beats the snot out of the competitors top high end halo 1.5k product in RT. Is that what you are telling me?That's because it is. Even NV got caught trying to sell it as a 4080 and had to backtrack, this alone proves they were disengenuous with their gen's nomenclature. Everyone can see that - except
you!
They only do that in GPUs and - only in nvidia ones. Don't tell them that the 7950x was launched for 699€ and has almost the same die size as an R3 1200 that cost 100€. LOLI find it hilarious people focus on die area. If anything it should be transistors you count. It shows a real misunderstanding of how you measure improvements in semiconductors when people focus on the overall size than the thing that actually makes something more complex.
Otherwise you are basically saying if nvidia used a worse node, like AMD did then it would have been okay for them to charge more.
I suggest you go away and look at the transistor counts. How many in the 3090 Ti and how many in the 4070 Ti? Since performance doesn't matter apparently, the 4070 Ti blows the 3090 Ti away in transistors
Oh crap, you just caused internal bleeding to some people nowAlso since some people love Moore's law and base their entire argument on it.
Moore's law - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The 3070 Ti has 17.4bn transistors.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti Specs
NVIDIA GA104, 1770 MHz, 6144 Cores, 192 TMUs, 96 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6X, 1188 MHz, 256 bitwww.techpowerup.com
The 4070 Ti has 35.8bn transistors.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Specs
NVIDIA AD104, 2610 MHz, 7680 Cores, 240 TMUs, 80 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6X, 1313 MHz, 192 bitwww.techpowerup.com
