Caporegime
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Yes but I was comparing it to the still-insane s/h 3080 market.
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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?
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That is how I usually buy my GPU, end of life (EOL) 70 or 80 class. Always got over a 30% discount so it was cheaper than the tier of gpu below it in the stack, and the performance would hold up for longer.
This generation has been different in two ways, firstly with a lot of luck it was possible to upgrade to the new generation for free, e.g. buy a Vega56 when it was cheaper EOL, then with mining boom sell it for more than you paid and buy a 3060ti FE £380 delivered, then trade that for a Radeon 6800. So you could effectively get a free upgrade during the mining boom. That is how I ended up with a 6800.
Secondly with this generation because they have over produced gpus AMD cards have had a good discount for months so it has been easy to get a good deal without having to keep searching and waiting. When the 6600 was around £230 that was the ball park for a 1060 at times but with extra vram.
However, my previous experience of trying to get EOL is that you have to keep looking when you know that a new gen is coming out and wait for the price drop, otherwise you can miss out. When AMD dropped the price of the Vega56 to around £235 they sold out quickly in the USA, but we seemed to have enough stock in the UK to have time to get one. If you look at what Gibbo wrote he has kept stock of old gen cards like the 3070/ti down so that he doesn't have to EOL for big discounts. So I quite enjoyed the search for discounted EOL previous gen cards as neither the retailer or Nvidia/AMD want to lose money on EOL cards and they try to keep the numbers of them down in a normal cycle.
This gen for people who held of buying during the boom it has been easy to get discounted cards for months. I have never seen it this easy to buy a discounted card so IMO the mining boom had a silver lining for those who could trade up to the new gen for free or who have bought a discounted card after the boom finished.
Example of how quickly a discounted gpu could sell out in the past,
AMD briefly drops Vega 56 to US$279 to take on the GTX 1660 Ti, sells out within hours
In the wake of NVIDIA announcing the 'Turing' GTX 1660 Ti GPU, AMD announced a limited period offer for the Vega 56 by bringing down the price of the card to the same US$279 price point. Unfortunately, though, the card appears to have been sold out and it is not known if and when AMD will...
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Some absolutely crazy prices out there. Not sure who they think will buy them.
Loads of 3070tis are listed for MORE than a 4070 costs now.
Just weird, though I guess it may take a few more weeks for retailers to act.
The issue with the 3080 is that it is already limited in some games due to its vram, even the 4070 is with 12GB vram, https://youtu.be/9rd1qrrrWGo?t=447
Soldato
The game is a hot mess, even digital foundry called it out as a **** unoptimized port.
Steve over at hub just said 10GB is fine and he would take a 3080 over a similar priced 6800xt.
That is the guy who said that 6GB at 1440p would be ok for years to come, https://youtu.be/pfnzHA3-MhM
Soldato
Are 6GB cards unusable in 2023...... Vram drama is just that.
Soldato
Birthday card urine.
Tlou is running and looking fantastic on a 3080 4K no DLSS with a mixture of low to ultra settings, it only plays up when you go over the in game vram limit.
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It's a mess from ram and CPU use to the vram requirement, go watch the DF breakdown. You would never know the devs here did the the worst console to PC port ever in Arkham night. 
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Soldato
I'm playing it, don't need to watch a vid from anyone.It's a mess from ram and CPU use to the vram requirement, go watch the DF breakdown. You would never know the devs here did the the worst console to PC port ever in Arkham night.
Soldato
The VRAM issue is hugely reliant on people being idiots and refusing to turn down settings that their card doesn't have the hardware for.
Sure there might be some entitled idiots who believe their card "ought" to be able to, but it can't so revise expectations, reduce VRAM usage and all of a sudden the game... stops having VRAM issues
Sure there might be some entitled idiots who believe their card "ought" to be able to, but it can't so revise expectations, reduce VRAM usage and all of a sudden the game... stops having VRAM issues
Caporegime
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Excuse me do you mind, I'm an idiot....
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But,but PCMR with expensive hardware. 8GB on £600 dGPUs was totally fine. Can't turn down settings because would be like the peasant console not-master race on more expensive hardware.
You have as much VRAM as I have system RAM!
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I always choose mostly high settings. Never medium
They do kind of have a point though, I've never chosen low settings in my life. I always use mostly high settings.
The VRAM issue is hugely reliant on people being idiots and refusing to turn down settings that their card doesn't have the hardware for.
Sure there might be some entitled idiots who believe their card "ought" to be able to, but it can't so revise expectations, reduce VRAM usage and all of a sudden the game... stops having VRAM issues
They do kind of have a point though, I've never chosen low settings in my life. I always use mostly high settings.
Soldato
The big issue is not this happening with some el-cheapo 8GB card like an RTX3050 or an RX6600,but with expensive ones like the £550 to £600 RTX3070TI. The core is sufficiently powerful enough already. You could argue people need to do their research better,but Nvidia could have included some extra VRAM at least with the RTX3070TI!
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I'm actually surprised by the VRAM issue because I expected game developers to hold back and use smaller textures etc to ensure that all recent Nvidia GPUs stayed relevant.
Maybe Jenson's ego led him to think the same.
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