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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

ASMB said:
According to this video a PS5 isn't as powerful as a 6800, you should be able to buy a 6700xt for £350 and have a 12GB vram gpu which holds up to the ps5. https://youtu.be/HCvE4JGJujk?t=1967
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To be honest i'm not even sure they are as powerful as a 6700XT

Tallies with my experience of a Plagues Tale on Series X. Runs at 1440p (upscaled to 4k) and 30fps (was horrible). They have recently released a performance mode for 60fps but it drops the resolution to 1080p and makes animations for some things still run at 30fps.

That puts it more like 6600 levels (6600xt being generous?) - https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a-plague-tale-requiem-benchmark-test-performance-analyis/5.html

Though the cpu's could be doing some holding back too.

Regardless, the hardware is clearly way off being able to run it at 1440p and 60fps. Something a 3070 or above can do.


Understandably, the hardware in the current PS5 and Series X is way off what a latest Gen mid range PC can do. I imagine the Pro version which will no doubt come out may close the gap a little again.
 
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Hedge said:
I tried breath of the wild on my pc yeah but never stuck with it.

Your pc is a 4090 spec isn't it? I mean... Not to state the obvious.. But if a pc costs 6 times the cost of a ps5 then it's only right to be more powerful lol.
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I never mentioned that my PC is more powerful. I don't need a 4090 to play zelda on my PC. You can't do that on an xbox. You can't play ultrawide games on an xbox. Im mentioning this cause you asked what are the benefits of gaming on a PC.
 
Murphy said:
Sorry but where in what you replied to does it mention anything about resolution, details, frame rate, or being hard to operate.
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Your quote of Poneros post

When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

Although it’s more efficient, can’t see why anyone would buy a 4060Ti over a 12GB 6750XT. I can't see why anyone would buy these new generations of cards (excluding the top end), but then i suspect that's the whole idea. Price the new generation of cards stupidly while dropping last gen cards...
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Hedge said:
Solely for gaming they are the best solution. All the pc justification comes down to is better graphics. Well unfortunately all the best gaming experiences aren't graphics related. They are gameplay related. Look at Zelda or Mario as an example. Or elden ring. They are epic games and my 180hrs in elden ring were as good on my xbox as they would have been on my considerably more expensive pc.
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Better graphics, higher frame rate, the ability to alt tab out and do something else, better controls, more game choice (Steam dwarfs consoles), more genres, mods, cheaper games, free online, ability to obtain games, upgrades, easier to repair etc etc.

There are some advantages of console, I will concede it is easier to get working in a sort of Apple 'do what we tell you' way, but personally I'd rather not game than have to use a console.
 
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Hedge said:
I tried breath of the wild on my pc yeah but never stuck with it.

Your pc is a 4090 spec isn't it? I mean... Not to state the obvious.. But if a pc costs 6 times the cost of a ps5 then it's only right to be more powerful lol.
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You need to state the obvious with him sadly. As his logic sometimes makes no sense and forgets the costs involved to achieve the desired outcome that could be had for a lot less..

Or you could buy every current console on the market and handheld console for the same price and with change from a full gaming pc with a high end GPU.. To play the same games and more.

But piracy seems to pay ...if you know what I mean... Because only way to be playing console games on a PC is basically involves piracy or ripping the content from the games you own but as we know that's rarely done as the internet is full of free software. So buy the expensive hardware and pay for it with free downloads as on a console that is not hacked that can't be done and you need to pay for the games. As we keep seeing when new hacks come out on certain firmwares of consoles them consoles not updated shoot up in value.. for one reason only free pirated games (but the pirates call it homebrew to justify it)..

The PC is basically the perfect tool to have every console in one box and not pay for the software, so even with very expensive hardware purchases it pays for itself over time in this manner for some... But is it ethical .. no is it right way to compare as he's doing... nope.. Broken logic as I said or just never buys software.
 
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Bencher said:
I never mentioned that my PC is more powerful. I don't need a 4090 to play zelda on my PC. You can't do that on an xbox. You can't play ultrawide games on an xbox. Im mentioning this cause you asked what are the benefits of gaming on a PC.
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Xbox can emulate other systems and play these games you mention.. as you know.. a good channel to watch



 
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NZXT30 said:
I can see that you can now build a PS5 beating PC for £650. Who wouldn't take that deal considering the advantages of PC gaming?

We've come a long way since Crypto and Covid frenzy prices have tanked across the board. Just the GPUs need that extra push and we'll be back to the good old days.
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What is the component list for a £650 PS5 beating PC?
 
Klo said:
Better graphics, higher frame rate, the ability to alt tab out and do something else, better controls, more game choice (Steam dwarfs consoles), more genres, mods, cheaper games, free online, ability to obtain games, upgrades, easier to repair etc etc.

There are some advantages of console, I will concede it is easier to get working in a sort of Apple 'do what we tell you' way, but personally I'd rather not game than have to use a console.
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I'll argue that every recent game I've bought has been cheaper on console as the second hand market is booming. Or if I buy it new I can sell it when I'm finished for a little less than I paid.

Steam is packed full of crap old games but I will accept there is a vast number to choose from. But this goes against the whole gpu to match a console issue because most of steams library can be played on old hardware.

Alt tabbing is a function yeah. But it doesn't allow you to alt tab multiple games without taking a significant performance hit. Consoles allow you to "alt tab" multiple games now and swap between them.

My argument isn't so much pc vs console in terms of functionality. Because it's kind of obvious. A personal computer does more than a games console. The clue is in their names.

My issue is that a gaming pc now needs to be so stupidly expensive in order to offer better graphics.

When I first got into pc gaming the difference was vast. Now the difference is only vast if you remortgage your house to fund a gpu.
 
Purgatory said:
You need to state the obvious with him sadly. As his logic sometimes makes no sense and forgets the costs involved to achieve the desired outcome that could be had for a lot less..

Or you could buy every current console on the market and handheld console for the same price and with change from a full gaming pc with a high end GPU.. To play the same games and more.

But piracy seems to pay ...if you know what I mean... Because only way to be playing console games on a PC is basically involves piracy or ripping the content from the games you own but as we know that's rarely done as the internet is full of free software. So buy the expensive hardware and pay for it with free downloads as on a console that is not hacked that can't be done and you need to pay for the games. As we keep seeing when new hacks come out on certain firmwares of consoles them consoles not updated shoot up in value.. for one reason only free pirated games (but the pirates call it homebrew to justify it)..

The PC is basically the perfect tool to have every console in one box and not pay for the software, so even with very expensive hardware purchases it pays for itself over time in this manner for some... But is it ethical .. no is it right way to compare as he's doing... nope.. Broken logic as I said or just never buys software.
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Wtf are you talking about? I think you need help man
 
Hedge said:
You mentioned playing zelda on your pc dude.

I actually owned a switch and zelda at one point :)
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And....? I can play Zelda on my PC while...paying the developers that made the game. The developers get nothing when you buy and sell used games.

But I find it hilarious you mentioned it right after purgatory was talking about piracy in PC :D :D
 
Bencher said:
No, but does it really matter? OCUK isn't the only shop around. Plus I could have done it for cheaper, I just splurged a little extra on the GPU.

EG1. Was mistaken in my previous post, ,I used a 10400f not an 11400f.
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It matters if you plan on playing games better than a ps5 surely. Or does it just get turned on and not interacted with?
 
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