When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

[gpuerrilla]

Both AMD and Intel are racing towards heterogeneous architecture and we're going to see both CPU and GPU becoming closer to SOC than single components.

I dunno maybe we are nearer to decent performance now but I recall back in 2011 where AMD were promoting APU's (was it promise of kaveri?) it was the next path to killing off dGPU's and here we are years later and the onboard meat is way off where it needs to be IMO. It would be great buying these SoC products but its still a way off really but I like your optimism.

Agree with the 2nd tier trickle for gaming the way it seems to be going.

 

[Zarax]

I dunno maybe we are nearer to decent performance now but I recall back in 2011 where AMD were promoting APU's (was it promise of kaveri?) it was the next path to killing off dGPU's and here we are years later and the onboard meat is way off where it needs to be IMO. It would be great buying these SoC products but its still a way off really but I like your optimism.

Agree with the 2nd tier trickle for gaming the way it seems to be going.

Let me put like that: there is a trade-off between having a dedicated component and having something really close to the computational part so at some point you have to choose between raw performance and latency.

Let's put a purely fantasy scenario to extremize:
Imagine AMD tomorrow launches a monster GPU with a full reticle size rasterizer, an huge cache and another full die just for RT. This incredibly powerful GPU would be able to do 8k/60/RT without FSR but...
It also does 4k/60 raster and same for 1080p. This is because the inter-die latency is so high that faster frametimes aren't phisically possible.

Would you still buy that?

Any SOC will face similar issues, just look at Ryzen performance between chiplets and make it 2x-10x worse.
APU tries to fix that by going monolithic but then you have to compromise between size allocated between CPU and GPU as well as having to deal with slower memory. Cache helps somewhat but at the price of some latency.

 

[86dan]

Already available for about 870 quid here in Australia, 950 when you factor in tax differences. The UK is really lagging on price drops for these cards.

Yeah, I'll take expensive graphics cards over spiders that can eat me in my sleep any time of the week.

 

[g67575]

What's going on with Techspot's reviews?

According to them, Hogwarts's performance has got significantly worse since the game's launch. Compare this in February:

https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2627/bench/Ultra_1080p-color-p.webp

To this in May (part of the RTX 4060 TI review:

Both 1080p Ultra (no RT).

In February, an RTX 3070, RTX 3060 TI and RX 6700 XT were enough to play smoothly at 1080p Ultra.

Interestingly, the performance of the RX 6800 stayed about the same, which makes me think the performance issues seen later could be related to VRAM (which the RX 6800 has plenty of).

Embarrassingly for Nvidia, their card selling for £550 (RTX 4070 with 12GB) is only just about handling 1080p Ultra smoothly, the RX 6800 is offering much better value, at least in this particular title.

 

[Tetras]

What's going on with Techspot's reviews?

According to them, Hogwarts's performance has got significantly worse since the game's launch

Afaik there's no benchmark for hogwarts, so it could be related to the scene or the run they do?

 

[g67575]

I was wondering if it could be patch related? Maybe they changed how texture streaming/loading works?

The lack of an inclusion of the RTX3080 10 or 12GB is a bit suspicious in the later review, I'm fairly sure either of these cards would handle Hogwarts at 1080p Ultra, and probably come out ahead of the RTX 4070.

 

[Hostile_18]

Well looks like the Diablo 4 promotion ended today*, so in effect prices have gone up lol.

*Still got till the 12th of July to redeem though.

 

[Nexus18]

Well looks like the Diablo 4 promotion ended today*, so in effect prices have gone up lol.

*Still got till the 12th of July to redeem though.

Hopefully cp 2077 expansion be bundled now, going to treat myself to the 4090 I reckon so I am ready for all the ray tracing goodness of Pandora, night city etc. i.e. paying to avoid/brute force through issues

 

[Minusorange]

Well looks like the Diablo 4 promotion ended today*, so in effect prices have gone up lol.

*Still got till the 12th of July to redeem though.

Might actually see some decent deals on Nvidia cards now

 

[Hostile_18]

Might actually see some decent deals on Nvidia cards now

I guess it depends how much that code is worth internally and who's been footing the bill. I bet with volume and cross marketing Nvidia pays about 10-20 pound a code max.

 

[malccy]

Am telling myself to only click 'Buy' on a 4080 when prices hit below £1000.

 

[Joxeon]

Am telling myself to only click 'Buy' on a 4080 when prices hit below £1000.

£1000 is still a rip off, 48% faster than a 3080 for 50% more money.

The most I’d go to is £800 and I still feel that is a rip off for a card with a smaller die and same size bus as a 3070 which had an MSRP of £469.

 

[malccy]

The 3080 I have currently is losing money every day it seems. Am seeing them go for as little as £425 so I am wondering whether to upgrade now and sell my asus tuf 3080 before it is worthless. I paid £750 for my 3080 when they first released, so could be worse.

 

[uscool]

The offset still wouldn't get me to buy 4080 at it's current ridiculous pricing, I rather let the 3080 continue to drop before paying that much for 4080

 

[Joxeon]

The 3080 I have currently is losing money every day it seems. Am seeing them go for as little as £425 so I am wondering whether to upgrade now and sell my asus tuf 3080 before it is worthless. I paid £750 for my 3080 when they first released, so could be worse.

I doubt a 3080 will drop anymore for now, it destroys a 4060ti which go for around £400.

 

[MCFC_ANDY]

The 3080 I have currently is losing money every day it seems. Am seeing them go for as little as £425 so I am wondering whether to upgrade now and sell my asus tuf 3080 before it is worthless. I paid £750 for my 3080 when they first released, so could be worse.

if you can afford to throw 1k at a gpu you shouldn't be bothered how much your old gpu is worth.

 

[Brackish]

I dunno maybe we are nearer to decent performance now but I recall back in 2011 where AMD were promoting APU's (was it promise of kaveri?) it was the next path to killing off dGPU's and here we are years later and the onboard meat is way off where it needs to be IMO. It would be great buying these SoC products but its still a way off really but I like your optimism.

Agree with the 2nd tier trickle for gaming the way it seems to be going.

In a way the APU's are there if it has AV1. They are aimed at cloud computing and volume sales are the target IMO. Stadia , Before Now, Amazon Gaming etc. I personally used Stadia until it shut down and it was for me a great experience. I could play on my Ryzen 3 laptop or my PC that had a 4670k and no dGPU at the time and I only had a 300mbps WiFi card lol.
Implement DLSS or FSR into a hardcore server side and the results might be decent.

 

[smilertoo]

It's nice to see there's plenty of GPU stock now and that people are just refusing to buy them at stupid prices.

 

[GhostDog1981]

It's nice to see there's plenty of GPU stock now and that people are just refusing to buy them at stupid prices.

Are they though? OCuK seem to be selling through their inventory….

 

[Nexus18]

The 3080 I have currently is losing money every day it seems. Am seeing them go for as little as £425 so I am wondering whether to upgrade now and sell my asus tuf 3080 before it is worthless. I paid £750 for my 3080 when they first released, so could be worse.

As little as £425? And you paid £750, sounds good to me given it is a 3 year old gpu now. But agree, largely why I'm looking to sell now especially when you see 3090s going for £600