When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

[GhostDog1981]

As little as £425? And you paid £750, sounds good to me given it is a 3 year old gpu now. But agree, largely why I'm looking to sell now especially when you see 3090s going for £600

Does it make sense to let the 3080 drop to £250 next gen and then buy or cash in now and buy a 7900xt or 4070ti?

 

[Man-In-A-Teapot]

Does it make sense to let the 3080 drop to £250 next gen and then buy or cash in now and buy a 7900xt or 4070ti?

Is that a trick question? Surely if the 3080 is still doing everything you want the answer is to hold on to it for another couple of years and take the extra c.£150 depreciation.

 

[FoxEye]

£600 is not low-midrange pricing, and it will damage the industry in long term pretending it is. If this stays, it will drive people out of PC gaming over time, which will mean yet more bad PC ports etc. Nvidia/AMD might be able to survive on high margin and lower sales, but I'm not sure game developers can. All of these should be 30 - 50% cheaper by now.

For sure, £500-600 is not mid-range pricing. It's not an amount that any mid-range buyer I know is prepared to spend. It's more like two whole pricing tiers above what we want to spend.

But then, in that list of his, how exactly is a 3090 a "low-mid" card? Surely even the 6800xt is not "low-mid". The 3060, yes.

Anyway, these days I couldn't care less what either of them do. Mostly playing ancient stuff that's found its way to Gog.com. Neither AMD nor nVidia getting a penny more from me for the foreseeable, as neither is offering worthwhile upgrades at realistic prices. There are other hobbies! And even in the realm of gaming, there are loads of older games I have yet to play.

In fact AMD and nVidia could exit the PC games market entirely, and maybe it wouldn't really hurt that much. Devs can just work with what we've got today, give up a bit of lens flair, and turn RT off Would honestly rather that happened than end up with £600 mid-range cards being the norm.

 

[Murphy]

Are they though? OCuK seem to be selling through their inventory….

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[Joxeon]

Are they though? OCuK seem to be selling through their inventory….

Like the weekend only deal that Gibbo expected to sell out at the weekend but are still in stock a week later?

Does it make sense to let the 3080 drop to £250 next gen and then buy or cash in now and buy a 7900xt or 4070ti?

At current 7900XT/4070ti prices then it makes more sense to keep the 3080, for one both are quite a small upgrade in performance despite being a large outlay while if your worried about a 3080 possibly losing £150 in value over another 2 years then you'll be looking at losing £400 or more from the 4070ti and 7900XT by the time next gen rolls in.

 

[Zarax]

Like the weekend only deal that Gibbo expected to sell out at the weekend but are still in stock a week later?

Can't blame him for using tried and true marketing tricks...

 

[GhostDog1981]

Like the weekend only deal that Gibbo expected to sell out at the weekend but are still in stock a week later?

At current 7900XT/4070ti prices then it makes more sense to keep the 3080, for one both are quite a small upgrade in performance despite being a large outlay while if your worried about a 3080 possibly losing £150 in value over another 2 years then you'll be looking at losing £400 or more from the 4070ti and 7900XT by the time next gen rolls in.

You have to put your money down sometime, if you need a card now then the 7900xt or 4070ti are affordable for decent performance. (They’re both 20-30% faster with more vram). Or you can wait and hope next gen there will be some charity shown to gamers from either company and see some 3080 FE like deal.

 

[Murphy]

You have to put your money down sometime, if you need a card now then the 7900xt or 4070ti are affordable for decent performance. (They’re both 20-30% faster with more vram). Or you can wait and hope next gen there will be some charity shown to gamers from either company and see some 3080 FE like deal.

Or you can just drop out of PC gaming altogether.

e: It's what I've done for the last fours years and it really doesn't bother me, if these companies don't want to offer me something that i personally consider good value then it's their loss not mine.

 

[uscool]

You have to put your money down sometime, if you need a card now then the 7900xt or 4070ti are affordable for decent performance. (They’re both 20-30% faster with more vram). Or you can wait and hope next gen there will be some charity shown to gamers from either company and see some 3080 FE like deal.

Depends on the resolution 3080 on average gets you over 100 FPS at 1440p what does another extra 40+ FPS gonna matter? If it's at 4K I wouldn't want 7900xt or 4070ti id want 4080 or 7900xtx

I'm happy with current performance don't see need to upgrade yet only reason I'd upgrade if pricing was more reasonable I'll see what options are available next gen

Say if you had 10 or 20 series card than it's different story or playing at 4K

 

[Tinek]

The one thing that many people are completely missing is that this isn't a static market with same people buying graphics cards all the time. It's a market to which constantly new people are coming. They don't know past prices of graphics cards, they can only see current ones and base their decisions on that. Add to this that Nvidia is earning most money from AI and enterprise now and they can totally ignore gaming market and still be fine. Similar situation is with Apple - iPhone sales are dropping and yet Apple never drops prices as they can wait for market situation to change.

Then, there's also inflation, with interest rates going up to almost 6% now and apparently wages are chasing - perfect excuse for any brand to hike prices and wait long enough for it to become new norm.

In summary, unless AMD wants to become more sensibly priced (they already are very slowly moving there I believe) instead of just chasing NVIDIA, there's nothing that would suggest either if them care to drop prices anytime soon.

 

[Hostile_18]

The answer is to shop with competitors even if Nvidia has the edge. However that gap is just too wide at the moment (with RT and Dlss). If next gen AMD/Intel can come within 10-15% of nvidia or offer amazing price per frame I'll go with them.

It's honestly a hard battle with how big Nvidia are and their buying power. It's likely a long process to win back market share.

 

[DeathStorm]

You have to put your money down sometime, if you need a card now then the 7900xt or 4070ti are affordable for decent performance. (They’re both 20-30% faster with more vram). Or you can wait and hope next gen there will be some charity shown to gamers from either company and see some 3080 FE like deal.

I don't think there's any point upgrading from a 3080 to a 4070ti for performance gains unless it's stupidly low priced, realistically you're going to see 10-20% better performance and the low end is not a meaningful improvement. If you want one because it uses less power, is quieter and runs cooler OK but again I think it needs to be a really low cost upgrade for that to make sense.

 

[G J]

If 3080 10GB owner wanted cooler running, lower power consumption, 2GB extra and a new warranty extra they could have side graded to a 4070 if timed right for little to no extra outlay esp if they had no intrest in playing Diablo 4 though I think the window has passed now as the promo has ended and the 3080 10GB has fallen a lot now second hand.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Inflation in China,etc is far lower than in the EU and US,so our inflation has no bearing on the actual production costs. Also people also have to understand the RTX3000 and RX6000 series were launched at the end of 2020 and early 2021 with the Pandemic in full flow. Hence the RRPs took into account any component shortages,etc and China under heavy lockdown. Now lots of components are much easier to get,GDDR6 pricing has dropped a lot,etc. Also freight prices have dropped massively too.

 

[mattyfez]

You just have to buy what's best for your budget at the time.
Shoot your shot and then ignore the market until you have to upgrade.


I game at 1440 and the 6800xt does that well.
I don't intend to go 4k or upgrade my cpu or gpu for about 5 more years.
I was running an rx480 8gb on an i56600 until about 4 months ago but it was really starting to struggle.

Also chasing high frame rates at ultra settings to me just seems a waste of money.
Some ultra settings just seam to eat frames for no appreciable visual gain. As long as I'm averaging 100plus frames and lows of say 60 or 70 I don't really care.

 

[Tinek]

Inflation in China,etc is far lower than in the EU and US,so our inflation has no bearing on the actual production costs. Also people also have to understand the RTX3000 and RX6000 series were launched at the end of 2020 and early 2021 with the Pandemic in full flow. Hence the RRPs took into account any component shortages,etc and China under heavy lockdown. Now lots of components are much easier to get,GDDR6 pricing has dropped a lot,etc. Also freight prices have dropped massively too.

It was never about production cost with current prices - it's just what they wanted these to be priced and that's it. Nvidia so far shows total lack of willingness to lower prices even if they don't sell a thing to gamers, though.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It was never about production cost with current prices - it's just what they wanted these to be priced and that's it. Nvidia so far shows total lack of willingness to lower prices even if they don't sell a thing to gamers, though.

I know but people try and explain the prices due to XYZ reasons,when the only reason is they want to jack up their margins even more like Apple did.

 

[Tinek]

I know but people try and explain the prices due to XYZ reasons,when the only reason is they want to jack up their margins even more like Apple did.

People always try to explain things, to feel better, instead of just accepting that we are all being shafted and there's no other real reason.

 

[Lightnix]

People always try to explain things, to feel better, instead of just accepting that we are all being shafted and there's no other real reason.

I think there's a lot of this going on: http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/gaming.gadgets/05/19/apple.religion/index.html

The jacket bloke doesn't love back.

 

[BUDFORCE]

Inflation in China,etc is far lower than in the EU and US,so our inflation has no bearing on the actual production costs. Also people also have to understand the RTX3000 and RX6000 series were launched at the end of 2020 and early 2021 with the Pandemic in full flow. Hence the RRPs took into account any component shortages,etc and China under heavy lockdown. Now lots of components are much easier to get,GDDR6 pricing has dropped a lot,etc. Also freight prices have dropped massively too.

I think this is the real kick in the teeth.

For those people who really did need to upgrade during late 2020 and 2021, it was a case of suck it up, ok you knew things were insane, but, if you needed a GPU, you needed a GPU, and it was always considered a one off.

The problem is 2 and half years later, we are almost no better off, and for some of those that had to fork out big during that time, their GPU is now getting to the point where you maybe are considering an upgrade, and yet you are being forced to suck it up again.

And I hear you, well you dont need to upgrade your GPU every 2 years, and yeah, under normal circumstances I would agree, but for those (like me) who went with an 8GB GPU, it's becoming outdated with the memory requirements of games, similar also to people who could only afford low/mid tier, well those never age well.

When I got my 3070, I had never intended it as a long term keeper, but, and although admittedly I got it on a good deal all things considered, I accepted that it was expensive, and wasnt ideal, but that in a few years, when things went back to normal, I would move it on. My aim was to shift this GPU, really about now, but looking at the prices I am basically going to get raped for a second time, and it to be honest ****** me off.