Plenty of cheap used cards about, no reason to go new unless you need the power of a 4090 as everything else new isn’t much faster than last gen anyway.
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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?
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Based on HUB latest GPU pricing round up it seems the 4060 Ti sales have struggled to out sell the 4080, and the 7600 isn't selling much better.
And based on LTT's recent video you're probably better off buying a 2nd hand 3080 or 3070 as they're around the same price as a 4060 Ti and you get around 20% better performance.
And based on LTT's recent video you're probably better off buying a 2nd hand 3080 or 3070 as they're around the same price as a 4060 Ti and you get around 20% better performance.
That's what happens when not only do you mess with the price, you also go on top of that and mess with naming. That ain't no 4060 Ti and it certainly ain't worth it's asking price.
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Used doesn’t have warranty which is important for a lot of people. I’d rather buy a brand new 7900xt which is 15% faster than a 6950xt or 30% faster than a 6800xt for £700ish and keep for 4 years. I’d rather not have a mined on 3080/3090 no thanks!
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Is the warranty really that important? How many people have found their cards fail within 2 years? Most electronic failures in my experience occur on the extremes.
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I’ve RMAed a few FEs last 2 years- warranty was priceless.
The failure rate on GPUs is around 1-2% and most failures are either doa or happen in the first few weeks, besides you can just ask the seller for the receipt.
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A lot of my friends bought used FEs- the sellers refused to give them their receipts
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Then don’t buy off them, with the used market full of cards it’s the buyer who calls the shots.
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This is true but I'm not a risk taker- rather have that security blanket a warranty provides.
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its also difficult and time consuming to work out who would give receipts etc- in the end they could end up double crossing you once they've received their money and withhold their receipt for privacy reasons etc.
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@Joxeon Overall fair advice if people are on a budget to get a better card used than new. But not for me.
On a different note- I presume OCUK sold all their 400 MBA 7900XTs? the price has gone up slightly? That shows there's decent demand still...
On a different note- I presume OCUK sold all their 400 MBA 7900XTs? the price has gone up slightly? That shows there's decent demand still...
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They have sold about 20 of those cards the past week looking at the stock.
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What went wrong with them?
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The fans stopped working on some and others (2x 3090s) I had a loose heat sink
Meanwhile in China... https://videocardz.com/newz/moore-t...nt-and-displayport-stream-compression-support
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Not sure if posted already but I'm not subbed to his channel - but the first 30 secs or so sums up pretty well of his recent upload:
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It'll be interesting to see where they get to with the optimisations. In theory the bigger card could be competitive with e.g. the 3060, RX6600 or A750 based on the raw specs, assuming they're anything like accurate. Although that's not a given as there could be any number of fundamental design bottlenecks which prevent it from living up to the on-paper numbers.
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Tbh I think both companies can’t wait to exit the diy pc build market with these shenanigans!
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Pro versions of cards have a vastly higher profit margin, e.g. a Radeon Pro W7800 uses the same GPU as a Radeon 7900XT but the yield (and thus profit margin) should be higher because the Pro version is significantly cut down and runs at lower clocks. There are other differences, but the same R&D costs cover both (obviously) and the manufacturing and distribution costs are quite similar. But the pro version has an MSRP of $4000. Even with the current over-charging for the gaming market, it can't get anywhere near that level of profit margin.
I think both companies only really want to sell overpriced low-end kit for what remains of the bulk PC market and hyper-high price "Pro" cards with ludicrous profit margins for any business market that can use massively parallel processing (with pseudo-AI chatbots being the current big thing). With the gaming market being mainly about advertising the company's name and extracting as much money as possible from consumers whose only other option is to stop gaming on PC entirely. I think that would also be Intel's intention, but they can't do it yet as they don't have the product for it.
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