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When the Gpu's prices will go down ?

Angilion said:
Pro versions of cards have a vastly higher profit margin, e.g. a Radeon Pro W7800 uses the same GPU as a Radeon 7900XT but the yield (and thus profit margin) should be higher because the Pro version is significantly cut down and runs at lower clocks. There are other differences, but the same R&D costs cover both (obviously) and the manufacturing and distribution costs are quite similar. But the pro version has an MSRP of $4000. Even with the current over-charging for the gaming market, it can't get anywhere near that level of profit margin.

I think both companies only really want to sell overpriced low-end kit for what remains of the bulk PC market and hyper-high price "Pro" cards with ludicrous profit margins for any business market that can use massively parallel processing (with pseudo-AI chatbots being the current big thing). With the gaming market being mainly about advertising the company's name and extracting as much money as possible from consumers whose only other option is to stop gaming on PC entirely. I think that would also be Intel's intention, but they can't do it yet as they don't have the product for it.
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I agree with all of this. Sad but going to come true.
 
Doop! said:
The trouble is the T-800 is just going to break into PC World to install his GPU upgrade
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No need to break in, its generative AI will point a distracting tiktok to the store personnel so that it can do all the swaps undisturbed, after all the monkeys are training themselves to be basically NPCs...
 
Some good deals around on last gen cards. Used market seems to have not reacted much though. I'm seeing cards like 6950XT selling used for not *that* much less than you can pick them up new at the moment.
 
As expected, the inventory build is quite large now. I would buy a card here in June, if you were waiting.

I would not wait till summer holidays or back to school.
 
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SonicSW20 said:
Some good deals around on last gen cards. Used market seems to have not reacted much though. I'm seeing cards like 6950XT selling used for not *that* much less than you can pick them up new at the moment.
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Yep this has been going on for months/years now as people contantly complain about new pricing second hand sales are sometimes very close to retail and people get all mad when new cards get released and they take the price point close to or above second hand sold price.

As an example people where happy to pay 500-600 for a used 3080 then people get mad when a 4070 comes in at near the same price point.
 
I recently have been regularly checking the Overclockers website for a possible bargain 4080 in the B-grade clearance section and am constantly seeing cards such as 3090's or 6900's for example listed there for silly £1000+ prices. Can anyone explain why they are listed there for such high prices (should add before I get into trouble that this is not a dig at Overclockers and that their pricing for gpu's is general is very competitive)?
 
malccy said:
I recently have been regularly checking the Overclockers website for a possible bargain 4080 in the B-grade clearance section and am constantly seeing cards such as 3090's or 6900's for example listed there for silly £1000+ prices. Can anyone explain why they are listed there for such high prices (should add before I get into trouble that this is not a dig at Overclockers and that their pricing for gpu's is general is very competitive)?
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Historically that part of the site doesn't get much love. It's fairly routine for the B-grade prices to be more than new prices ;)
 
malccy said:
I recently have been regularly checking the Overclockers website for a possible bargain 4080 in the B-grade clearance section and am constantly seeing cards such as 3090's or 6900's for example listed there for silly £1000+ prices. Can anyone explain why they are listed there for such high prices (should add before I get into trouble that this is not a dig at Overclockers and that their pricing for gpu's is general is very competitive)?
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There are two possible interpretations:

i) B grade is for snaring suckers who don't know that the prices there are routinely far above what they should be for B-grade and often above (sometimes far above) the cost of the same item new, in perfect condition and with a full warranty.
ii) B grade pricing is set to slightly below the maximum price for an item when it was first released. If the retail price later drops, B grade pricing doesn't drop with it. B grade pricing isn't linked to normal pricing and only changes if someone changes it manually. Which doesn't seem to happen often, if at all.

I think it's probably (ii). Someone would have to manually review the prices of everything in B grade on a fairly frequent basis and that would be a fair bit of work.

Either way, the result is that B-grade is useless unless you really like haggling and you're good at it and you know who to haggle with. And, of course, that you're willing to take the gamble on buying an item with an unknown amount of damage (maybe none) and an extremely short warranty (that excludes any damage that existed when sold).

Over the years I've bought several items from B grade. All bar one were as new, genuinely as new. With most of them I have no idea why they were B grade. Nothing was damaged, nothing was missing, packaging was original and complete. But the last item I bought on B grade was a wreck that wasn't even fully functional. A badly damaged case. Dented enough to prevent a radiator fitting. Side panel tabs mashed flat or broken off, so the side panels only stayed on if taped in place. Entire front section missing, just not there at all. I had to buy a new front section from the manufacturer (who kindly sold it to me at cost, just £15 IIRC - top marks for Phantek there).
 
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