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Indeed, with the correct means of diagnosing not by appealing to some magical unseen force or entity.
Where did the paranormal go?
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The scientific community would probably take objection to being called "paranormal investigators" tho! The phrase has connotations of the supernatural, like it or not.
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This is critical.
Not really. Even Einstein referred to some things as spooky (have a read up of quantum entanglement). Just because people are ignorant of the meaning of a word doesn't mean the word is wrong. They are.
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I took most of my stuff with me when they kicked me out, the stuff that was left they looked through and found a satanic bible and blamed it on that. I don't care you don't believe me, I'm just telling my experience, honestly.
You guys spouting your belief in science is hilarious, you're just reading what some main stream scientists publish, which a lot of us now disproved by newer research but it's not updated for pop culture.
Would you consider the defense minister of Canada openly stating as fact that there are several alien races that they know about to a symposium of his peers and Goverment officials a hallucination or just his opinion? This was 10 years ago, did you even hear about it? Wonder why not... Because any of this you would never research into a you have made up your mind before doing so, your views on the matter are fed to you not discovered.
Just like the other things mentioned here, your only knowledge of them is copying ridicule.
Today ridicule, one day, really cool. - Nathan Barley
You guys spouting your belief in science is hilarious, you're just reading what some main stream scientists publish, which a lot of us now disproved by newer research but it's not updated for pop culture.
Would you consider the defense minister of Canada openly stating as fact that there are several alien races that they know about to a symposium of his peers and Goverment officials a hallucination or just his opinion? This was 10 years ago, did you even hear about it? Wonder why not... Because any of this you would never research into a you have made up your mind before doing so, your views on the matter are fed to you not discovered.
Just like the other things mentioned here, your only knowledge of them is copying ridicule.
Today ridicule, one day, really cool. - Nathan Barley
Yes, I watched the press conference. Do you know where Paul Hellyer got that information from? Not within his own government or another government, not from anywhere official, he simply quoted it from a UFO book he happened to be reading. Anyone could have said what he said his position meant nothing. He was the laughing stock of that conference and deflected from the actual witnesses like former nuclear weapons controller Robert Sallas.
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Aliens aren't classed as Paranormal anomalies though are they. And its almost impossible for there NOT to be any other forms of life in our Universe...
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This stuff is really interesting, I'm firmly a science and prove it type person but I've seen/experienced a couple of things that opened my eyes a bit, one was 20 years ago and the other was just last year. The one 20 years ago every single hair on my body stands on end when I think about it.
I'll never be able to explain either experience and I'd like to think there is a rational explanation but the open minded part of me would like to think there is plenty of things about the universe that we are no where near close to explaining or understanding
I'll never be able to explain either experience and I'd like to think there is a rational explanation but the open minded part of me would like to think there is plenty of things about the universe that we are no where near close to explaining or understanding
They aren't mutually exclusive. In other words, a perfectly rational explanation may be the result of new understanding and discoveries.
I don't discount the possibility of a non-physical/astral plane of existence, and I sure as hell don't go looking for it. From my POV there is nothing whatsoever to be gained from dabbling in the occult, and I personally know people who have and wished they hadn't. I view it like smoking. There's simply no good reason to start.
It's always interesting when people speak of the 'paranormal' and 'science' as two different things. When people do actual research, interesting things emerge. For example Professor G Schwartz at the University of Arizona set up the VERITAS program and published a lot of tightly controlled, double blind studies.
His experiments had some pretty strongly interesting results, and they're worth reading. People are very quick to dismiss things as hooey, yet when bone fide scientists (this guy has a PhD from Harvard in half a dozen different medical fields!) publish strongly persuasive studies in peer reviewed journals, nobody talks about it.
Edit: Link to some of his work.
His experiments had some pretty strongly interesting results, and they're worth reading. People are very quick to dismiss things as hooey, yet when bone fide scientists (this guy has a PhD from Harvard in half a dozen different medical fields!) publish strongly persuasive studies in peer reviewed journals, nobody talks about it.
Edit: Link to some of his work.
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I might type it up if I get chance later, its probably disappointing to read rather than it was to experience though
I would never go looking for it, I'm quite sure there is plenty to find that will only end in regret. I prefer to stay where I am which is show me evidence or tell me stories. I've always been a huge fan of horror films for example, I dont need to know if there is any truth to it all.
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Science is peer reviewed. You don't just make something up, badly test it, and publish it. It has to be reviewed, have a predictable and repeatable outcome, be replicable, and has to be confirmed by a number of people, who then put their name to it and put their reputation on the line as well.
When a theory or a fact is disproved, it's put aside. The fact that the general population is not up to date on the very latest scientific discoveries just reflects that fact that we aren't still at school!
why did they kick you out in the first place then? why did you leave your stuff? how do you know they blamed it on that? you spouting a half-spun story like this then claiming "it's definitely real" is hilarious.
I've got the Satanic Bible at home, it's never caused anything like you're describing.
funny though, isn't it, the amount of crimes that have been carried out in Satan's name, against the number of crimes carried out in God's name. even funnier when you think about the number of crimes Satanists have been accused of that have never been proved, or have been proved to be total horse****, and who accuses them? yeah, good old Christian folk.
Never has this been more appropriate: "source please"
Also if such a briefing is public domain then there is every chance it is disinformation.
You typically don't find ministers candidly briefing the public about threats to national security. It's normally behind closed doors. Anything security related in the public domain is either a "leak" or of dubious origin/made up.
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we used to sit around and tell ghost stories or get told them
it scared the pants off me. the whole ouiji board thing did the rounds too, more pant scaring antics. i remember seeing the old magazines with pictures of spontaneous human combustion , that scared me too!
all good fun and part of growing up. i try not to believe in anything paranormal these days, there's enough to be anxious about, rather than worrying you will get back luck if you walk under a ladder
it scared the pants off me. the whole ouiji board thing did the rounds too, more pant scaring antics. i remember seeing the old magazines with pictures of spontaneous human combustion , that scared me too!
all good fun and part of growing up. i try not to believe in anything paranormal these days, there's enough to be anxious about, rather than worrying you will get back luck if you walk under a ladder