Where is the first floor?

glenimp617 · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:19

LOVE THIS THREAD

Obviously I started reading it on page 0

Vulcan · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:20

Skeeter said:
Thats a good analogy.

When counting steps as you walk up the you go up the first step and start counting from 1. You don't stand at the base of the steps, take the first step up and go "2...".

But that's because you are talking about 2 different things, floors, and stairs.

When you are on a floor, and go up a step, you are on the 1st step, because there are no previous steps.

If you go up 1 floor, you are on the 2nd floor because there was a previous floor (ground/1st).

You are counting apples to oranges, when you should be counting apples and apples.

Gilly · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:21

Lysander said:
It would be identical except for the ground floor would be labelled as ground floor and the floors upwards of that numbered 1+ accordingly.

Would it be identical, or would their be better than yours and you don't want to get shown up?

D.P. · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:21

Skeeter said:
Indeed he does. One for the Ground floor, and one for the First floor.

One for the first floor he enters, one for the second floor.

If on every floor of the building you get given an apple and the building has 10 floors then you get 10 apples, not 9 because you get 1 apple on the first floor that you enter.

glenimp617 · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:21

^ Longbow has hit the nail on the head

which is what I said on page 3....or was it 2 lol

Efour · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:21

This is one of the dumbest things ive read here since jet plane on a tredmill or what ever that nonsense was...

glenimp617 · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:22

Efour said:
This is one of the dumbest things ive read here since jet plane on a tredmill or what ever that nonsense was...

yet these are the best threads aren't they

LOAM · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:23

Longbow said:
But that's because you are talking about 2 different things, floors, and stairs.

When you are on a floor, and go up a step, you are on the 1st step, because there are no previous steps.

If you go up 1 floor, you are on the 2nd floor because there was a previous floor (ground/1st).

Its relevant, when on the primary entrance to a building you haven't transitioned any vertical space. When you do you would transition 1 storey arriving at the first floor you encounter beyond the primary level.

Judgeneo · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:24

Longbow said:
But that's because you are talking about 2 different things, floors, and stairs.

When you are on a floor, and go up a step, you are on the 1st step, because there are no previous steps.

If you go up 1 floor, you are on the 2nd floor because there was a previous floor (ground/1st).

You are counting apples to oranges, when you should be counting apples and apples.

Using that logic,s tart on the ground floor, go down a floor, you are now on the -1 floor. A jump of two floors.

Ground floor = 0th floor.

Lysander · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:25

Gilly said:
Would it be identical, or would their be better than yours and you don't want to get shown up?

There is no point in my creating a diagram to do something I have just as easily explained.

Efour · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:26

glen8 said:
yet these are the best threads aren't they

sadly YES

dan958 · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:26

Gilly said:
You're immediately in your first year though. Like you're immediately on the 1st of the building's floors.

You don't have to live in a bungalow to hit the floor when you fall out of bed :/

But most beds on normal houses are upstairs - the poster was using an example for if you fell on the ground/1st floor. (not the upstairs floor)

Raymond Lin · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:26

D.P. said:
You have no apples, you walk into a building and are given an apple so now you have 1 apple. You walk up 1 flight of stairs and someone gives you an apple you now have 2 apples, 1 for each floor you visited.

Why would you gain an Apple, aka a floor, by merely walking through a door with no change in elevation?

Gilly · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:27

LOAM said:
Its relevant, when on the primary entrance to a building you haven't transitioned any vertical space.

Well that's not true, is it? If you're on the primary entrance to a building, thinking hotels, office blocks, etc. you'd be neither ground or 1st, or 1st or 2nd, depending where in the world your particular primary entrance happened to be located. You'd be twixt the two initial floor spaces.

LOAM said:
When you do you would transition 1 storey arriving at the first floor you encounter beyond the primary level.

The first floor beyond the primary level? So the second one you encounter then?

Lysander said:
There is no point in my creating a diagram to do something I have just as easily explained.

You failed to explain as well as you failed to be accurate

At least you're consistent, champ.

dan958 said:
But most beds on normal houses are upstairs - the poster was using an example for if you fell on the ground/1st floor. (not the upstairs floor)

...and yet the fact is, whichever storey you happen to sleep on you hit the floor is you fall out of bad. Simply a rubbish analogy.

glenimp617 · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:27

If the ground floor was 0 and the next floor up 1

When you go down from 1 to 0, you would stop to exist in time and space...else where would you be? Nothing is nothing. Where not talking about 'labels on the lift door'

Skeeter · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:28

Longbow said:
But that's because you are talking about 2 different things, floors, and stairs.

When you are on a floor, and go up a step, you are on the 1st step, because there are no previous steps.

If you go up 1 floor, you are on the 2nd floor because there was a previous floor (ground/1st).

You are counting apples to oranges, when you should be counting apples and apples.

But we have had Floors compared to Levels in a game, and someone counted apples too, and things are still all a muddle :confused:

Vulcan · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:28

LOAM said:
Its relevant, when on the primary entrance to a building you haven't transitioned any vertical space.

So? Why is not having transitioned any vertical space relevant? You're already on the first floor.

Skeeter said:
But we have had Floors compared to Levels in a game, and someone counted apples too, and things are still all a muddle

The difference is, you compare one thing with another thing that is exactly the same. Floors and stairs aren't the same. Levels to levels, apples to apples, not floors with stairs or apples with oranges.

Lysander · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:28

Gilly said:
Well that's not true, is it? If you're on the primary entrance to a building, thinking hotels, office blocks, etc. you'd be neither ground or 1st, or 1st or 2nd, depending where in the world your particular primary entrance happened to be located. You'd be twixt the two initial floor spaces.

The first floor beyond the primary level? So the second one you encounter then?

The problem is that you can't apply the rules of Mars bars or whatever to buildings. You can have no Mars bars but you can't have no floors. Therefore you start on the ground. You cannot think of it as Mars bars/ladders/apples. It is not the same.

glenimp617 · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:28

We have a large building development going on outside work. I'm going to ask the site manager what he's building on top of the foundations. If he says he's putting the floor down, then that's this thread done with.

It's the existence of a floor.....ie...ONE

Jeps · 25 Feb 2014 at 14:29

D.P. said:
One for the first floor he enters, one for the second floor.

If on every floor of the building you get given an apple and the building has 10 floors then you get 10 apples, not 9 because you get 1 apple on the first floor that you enter.

You enter a building and are given an apple. You go down one level and an apple is taken away. You now have 0 apples, you go down another level and an apple is taken away, you now have 0 apples.

Therefore, every floor bellow the first floor is 0 :confused:

Where is the first floor?

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