Who has right of way in this mini-roundabout situation?
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Green would still have the right of way because its turning RIGHT across the yellows cars path, and since he on a mini roundabout coming from the RIGHT, the yellow car has to give way.
Exits have absolutely no bearing on right of way. There's absolutely no reason why the yellow car can't do a 180 turn and head back down the road he came down. As I said, neither car has automatic right of way in this case as the entrance is diameterically opposite to each other.
Everyone is assuming right of way based on his chosen exit, not on the actual position of the other car.
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It's not opposite! It's on the right! It's a roundabout!
12,4,8 o'clock positions.
Same principles!
What is so hard? Come on!
12,4,8 o'clock positions.
Same principles!
What is so hard? Come on!
They're both at each other's 12 o'clock positon...
Remember, it's a roundabout, not a juntion, so he's not making a right turn. He goes round the roundabout and takes a left turn off at his exit.
Yellow car isnt indicating to do anything though, the dots clearly show he is going straight on, and the green car is turning right. This puts the green car on a collision coarse with the yellow one, hence the yellow has to give way to the right. The yellow car is on the green cars left in this instance, and has absolutely no right of way over the green car. IF both cars were turning right there would as you said be no right of way.
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Your reasoning is wrong and will cause you an accident!
Where each car is turning or indicating is irrelevant, you let the green car proceed and makes its move first then you make yours. If you proceed first you risk having an accident.
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Is it really that complicated for everyone?
The yellow car will only move off when the green is at the black arrow position. The guy could indicate left (as an sign for exit the roundabout) but take a right...people have done more stupid things whilst driving, so I personally wouldn't move until the green car has got to the black arrow spot.
Even if they both move off at the same time, they will pass each other on opposite sides of the roundabout as per my pic.
Has everyone suddenly turned into women and become spatially inept?
Is it really that complicated for everyone?
thats not what the picture shows that we are talking about though is it. Modifying it to support your theory doesnt make it right. If we was discussing your photo i would 100% agree with your theory.
that doesn't make it right, and will cause accidents if everyone followed your adaptation of the highway code. Normal roundabouts maybe, not mini aroundabouts, theres not enough space/time to play with. If the green car hits the yellow car, the insurance claim will side with the green car.
They should all be able to go at the same time tbh
If I was the yellow car I would go as I know I can get to the other side before the green could get to where I was. If I was the Orange I would wait because I know the yellow could get where I am pretty quickly. If I was the green I would set off straight away as I know I would be out of the way before the orange got to me.
All you're doing on a round-a-bout is giving way to the right. When you come up to a T-Junction and you have to give-way you don't wait until the road is 100% clear, you go when you know you can cross without causing another car to take action. The same applies to round-a-bouts.
If I was the yellow car I would go as I know I can get to the other side before the green could get to where I was. If I was the Orange I would wait because I know the yellow could get where I am pretty quickly. If I was the green I would set off straight away as I know I would be out of the way before the orange got to me.
All you're doing on a round-a-bout is giving way to the right. When you come up to a T-Junction and you have to give-way you don't wait until the road is 100% clear, you go when you know you can cross without causing another car to take action. The same applies to round-a-bouts.
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It's exactly what we are talking about.
It only causes accidents if it's not as per the OP.
LOL. Just read it. It's completely dependent on teh size of the round-a-bout though. As it's mini though greenie will almost definitely cut the corner. You'd be a fool in yellow if you went out. You'd certainly expect a side shunt at least.
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I guess the crucial point I missed out on is how big the roundabout is... eg:
And then also whether they cut across the paint or not....
This round about has both types of give way markings. The double dash means that you must not cross it but give way to traffic on the major road. The single dashes indicate the major road and you only have to give way if crossing it will cause a road user to have to do something i.e. traffic already in the jucnction. There's no line on the exit as there's nothing to give way to.
If I am driving the green car, I need to give way to the right turning orange car.
but you said ignore the right turning orange car so I now have right of way.
If the yellow car hesitates before we both move onto the roundabout then the yellow car will have to give way to my right turning green car. If he his driving properly in his yellow car then it's a non issue as he will be gone before I get round the roundabout.
ANYTHING different is wrong!
Learn to ****** drive!
The easiest way to picture what's going to happen is by moving all three cars "one and half" car lengths forward and see where they all sit.
The fact the orange car will be almost in the side of the green car and the yellow car will almost be in the side of the orange car tells you all you need to know.
If all cars arrived at the junction at the same time/ speed then the only car free to move without pulling out on someone in accordance with the highway code is the Yellow car. All others will cause interaction with another road user.
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