Who here owns a Renaultsport?

RSClio said:
Ohh and the wheels look very dark compared to mine. Have they been repainted darker?
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Its because mines silver and yours is black, illusion & tricks! Like below, colour in the middle is the same, but looks darker on silver.

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Hi guys, had my 182 for 4 days now and loving it. With regards to the drive, I've read a lot about once you hit 5k revs something kicks in, what exactly is this?

Secondly, the cd player won't read my homemade cd's :( does anyone else have this problem? Just says Error when I enter them.

I would also like to install a better CD player which has an AUX input so I can plug my IPOD in. Can this be fitted by myself and how much am I looking at for an okay one?
 
Gustov said:
Hi guys, had my 182 for 4 days now and loving it. With regards to the drive, I've read a lot about once you hit 5k revs something kicks in, what exactly is this?

Secondly, the cd player won't read my homemade cd's :( does anyone else have this problem? Just says Error when I enter them.

I would also like to install a better CD player which has an AUX input so I can plug my IPOD in. Can this be fitted by myself and how much am I looking at for an okay one?
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Very good read here http://cliotrophy.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1550&start=15 :)

The CD Player only reads correct format CDs no MP3s or the like.
 
I know how you feel :( You will need IMO to get a slim profile facia stereo. with the way the surrounding is most aftermarket head units stick out loads!!! Not good.
 
I noticed a major increase in power at 5k aswell today on the way home from picking up the car, forgot to mention it here! In 2nd gear the power increase is so obvious its like its coming on boost.
 
The 5k kick is the result of a few natural phenomenons within the engine. At 5000-ish rpm VE suddenly reaches a higher %'age and the resultant torque increase gives you that wahey feeling. VE increases due to the cam comming 'on'. This term has nothing to do with VVT and is quite an old term, whereby the reference is to the rpm region that particualr engine/cam combo requires to process the valve timing events efficiently.

VE refers to volumetric efficiency, or the %'age of the cylinder that you can fill with fresh charge. For a 2ltr, thats 500cc per cylinder. If you can only fill that cylinder with 430cc's at peak efficiency (normally at peak torque point) thats 86% VE. The higher the VE on any engine, the higher the torque output at that specific RPM, and all engine tuning revolves around increasing or rather sustaining a good VE for as long as possible, and upto as high an rpm as possible.

Anyway, back on track. The clio with its advanced cam timing (phased) operates with an overlap value that is larger than when it is dephased (infact it has no overlap when depahsed). This overlap is part of cam design basics, and larger overlap periods are used to help generate higher VE's via scavenging and inertia ramming. At 5000 rpm the natural effects of the port velocity and pulse tuning al reach a level where they start to actively enhance the torque production with the valve timing it is running. Put in a wilder cam and it will push the 'kick' higher up if nothing else changes, but lower rpm efficiency will loose out, and peak power will be pushed up the rpm scale, along with a higher peak bhp figure. To an extent, there will be a point where you can go wilder on the cam and just loose out everywhere as the engine system as a whole does not work with the cam profile you are running.

Not very clear sorry, basis is that the 5k kick is the result of natural phenomenons within the engine, primarily port velocities and pulse tuning harmonics
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RSClio said:
Very good read here http://cliotrophy.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1550&start=15 :)
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Read the post by BenR, he knows these engines very well.

It's nothing to do with any VVT stuff which a lot of people think.

It's more like when you used to say that older cars where 'on cam' when revving up through the range. Nothing within the engine is physically changing/moving, just that everything is at a good point in the cycle, if you get what I mean :)
 
Mine too by RS Tuning here in Leeds. Removes the kick and sorts the lumpy idle out. Gains around 10bhp extra both rolling road confirmed. Cost £250

Have you used one of the RS Tuning boxes?
 
Begbie said:
Does that not take the characteristics of the car away?
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As above, it's actually made it much more drivable for me.

RSClio said:
Mine too by RS Tuning here in Leeds. Removes the kick and sorts the lumpy idle out. Gains around 10bhp extra both rolling road confirmed. Cost £250

Have you used one of the RS Tuning boxes?
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I bought an RSTuner for £90, then spent about 65 Euros (£55) on the necessary downloads from fastchip.nl, then sold the RSTuner on for £90. So all in it only cost me £55 or so :)

I'd be surprised if it adds any extra horsepower though.
 
ScarySquirrel said:
No idea, I know nothing about cars really :p
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I see! :D Must see some gains, wont get hardly any from a N/A engine and a stock map. I would say and its a guess a couple bhp. Did it feel any different? How come you went and installed an RS Tuner map? Fix the lumpy idle?

Gustov said:
Just got beat at the lights by a ford KA :( Not the highest point in my life!

How? I stalled it :(
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Hahaha no way?? That is classic :p
 
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