Who owns a Golf GTD / GTI / R?

silvagti · 24 Oct 2019 at 16:16

thewanted said:
I test drove a pre-facelift R but didn't enjoy it at all. I think it was mostly because of the rubbish 6 speed DSG box which they fixed with the facelifted models.

Have you driven a GTi/R with the 7-speed box? How does it compare?

thewanted · 24 Oct 2019 at 16:37

silvagti said:
Have you driven a GTi/R with the 7-speed box? How does it compare?

Not yet but I want to. I believe that I have the same 7 speed box in my 2016 Audi A4 and whilst it's not perfect it is very good a lot of the time, so I could definitely live with it in another car.

Lustral · 24 Oct 2019 at 19:32

What’s rubbish about the 6 speed DSG on the pre facelift R ? Intrigued as I have ran one for over 3 years now.

Kenai · 24 Oct 2019 at 19:50

thewanted said:
Not yet but I want to. I believe that I have the same 7 speed box in my 2016 Audi A4 and whilst it's not perfect it is very good a lot of the time, so I could definitely live with it in another car.

I think (based on being corrected in another thread) the A4 has a DL501, the GTI will have a DQ380.

Grim5 · 24 Oct 2019 at 20:27

Nice car participant - GL if you do keep it for 10 years, make sure it's always under mechanical warranty

dod · 25 Oct 2019 at 10:34

thewanted said:
I test drove a pre-facelift R but didn't enjoy it at all. I think it was mostly because of the rubbish 6 speed DSG box which they fixed with the facelifted models.

There seems to be a consensus that the 7 speed is a lot better than the 6. I can't say, never had the 6 speed.

The 7 can occasionally hunt for the right gear if you floor it for overtaking if you're not in S mode on the gearbox. Most of the time it's perfect and gives remarkably good economy on a long run.

thewanted · 25 Oct 2019 at 10:51

Lustral said:
What’s rubbish about the 6 speed DSG on the pre facelift R ? Intrigued as I have ran one for over 3 years now.

It wasn't as smooth as my 7 speed. It lurched if you came off the throttle when it didn't expect you too, and just seemed confused most of the time.

Kenai said:
I think (based on being corrected in another thread) the A4 has a DL501, the GTI will have a DQ380.

Ah okay, thanks for the info. I'll have to pay particular attention to the box then if I do test drive one.

Lustral · 25 Oct 2019 at 11:55

thewanted said:
It wasn't as smooth as my 7 speed. It lurched if you came off the throttle when it didn't expect you too, and just seemed confused most of the time.

I cant say i have experienced any lurching and i drive my R pretty damn hard. The only thing close to it being lurching is when it is on sports mode and it is down shifting automatically from 3rd to 2nd gear lifting off the throttle completely it there is a light stutter almost like massive engine braking and it does a bit of a pop on the exhaust as well.

On normal D or E mode or manual mode in E D or S it is all smooth

shiver · 25 Oct 2019 at 20:12

Lustral said:
I cant say i have experienced any lurching and i drive my R pretty damn hard. The only thing close to it being lurching is when it is on sports mode and it is down shifting automatically from 3rd to 2nd gear lifting off the throttle completely it there is a light stutter almost like massive engine braking and it does a bit of a pop on the exhaust as well.

On normal D or E mode or manual mode in E D or S it is all smooth

Similar experience with my GTI Mk7, 6 speed DSG. I have no real issues with it.

I do have the habit of "dropping" it into Sport mode from Dynamic for overtaking sometimes, which helps with the responsiveness.

Ev0 · 25 Oct 2019 at 20:39

The 6 speed in my old mk7 R was the best out of all the DSG boxes I’ve had or driven over the years.

Felt better than my current 7 speed in the RS3.

Grim5 · 25 Oct 2019 at 21:38

There are just so many things that can break in these DSG boxes - it's only a matter of time.

shiver · 25 Oct 2019 at 22:23

From what I have read into, they're generally pretty solid providing you get the oil serviced at the right intervals.

Quinnaay · 25 Oct 2019 at 22:52

yeah the recent DSG's are solid boxes to be fair..

Ev0 · 25 Oct 2019 at 23:36

Never had a problem with any of mine, even a high mileage early (2003) box in an A3 3.2.

happy_2008 · 4 Nov 2019 at 23:47

My in laws currently own a 2009 1.4 TDI 140BHP and the ABS/traction & brake lights are all on. Had the car diagnosed in a local garage that has pointed to the ABS controle module unit fault code 16352, apparently this was a common fault on this model of car and can cost up to £1,500 just for a replacement unit

rhysduck · 5 Nov 2019 at 09:21

Who's quoted the £1500 @happy_2008 ??

Had a look into a DIY DSG service but decided to let VW do it! Dropped the car off this morning at VW to get it done.

Dangerous Dave · 5 Nov 2019 at 10:58

happy_2008 said:
My in laws currently own a 2009 1.4 TDI 140BHP and the ABS/traction & brake lights are all on. Had the car diagnosed in a local garage that has pointed to the ABS controle module unit fault code 16352, apparently this was a common fault on this model of car and can cost up to £1,500 just for a replacement unit

VW do a repair kit for the fault so the whole part doesn’t need replaced it’s around £250 fitted the last time I checked. If they have owned the car for some time and serviced it at VW VAG are still fitting them for free under goodwill.

happy_2008 · 5 Nov 2019 at 23:03

I read it online that it was a common fault. Anyway, the in laws part exchanged it today for a newer Golf as they were offered a good price for there Golf plus the car they were buying was cheap

J35T3R · 15 Mar 2020 at 06:54

I'm a fully converted Golf guy now after years of company car Astra's and most recently a Ford Focus ST (diesel).

I bought a 2014 GTD which I had for 3 months and just felt like I was missing out not going for a petrol car (it's still for sale at Arnold Clark Toyota in East Kilbride).

So it was traded in for a 2016 Golf GTI +. And it was 100% the right decision. I almost bought an M140i but it was lacking lots of kit and was also a manual.
So far it's been great, looks the part IMO and it's now equipped with a full Ramair intake, turbo elbow, turbo muffler delete and Stage 1 remap.

Golf R beating power and torque and less weight. Although an R would still snaffle me off the line, it fair shifts.

Best thing is it looks totally standard but I may change the exhaust tips.

LiE · 15 Mar 2020 at 07:01

J35T3R said:
I'm a fully converted Golf guy now after years of company car Astra's and most recently a Ford Focus ST (diesel).

I bought a 2014 GTD which I had for 3 months and just felt like I was missing out not going for a petrol car (it's still for sale at Arnold Clark Toyota in East Kilbride).

So it was traded in for a 2016 Golf GTI +. And it was 100% the right decision. I almost bought an M140i but it was lacking lots of kit and was also a manual.
So far it's been great, looks the part IMO and it's now equipped with a full Ramair intake, turbo elbow, turbo muffler delete and Stage 1 remap.

Golf R beating power and torque and less weight. Although an R would still snaffle me off the line, it fair shifts.

Best thing is it looks totally standard but I may change the exhaust tips.

I imagine most Golf Rs are also tunned as well, so those will be about 375bhp

The GTI is a lovely car, very similar performance to my 2.0 TSFI Audi A4 at 252ps out of the factor. I’m tempted by a 340ps stage 1 myself.