Who owns a Mondeo ST220 / ST TDCI?

Phil W · 5 Mar 2013 at 16:24

Buy/try the cage fitment first then?!

Howard · 5 Mar 2013 at 16:25

That answers half the question I suppose. But I want the unit to fit in the fascia adaptor and the plastic surround to fit around the edges nicely without having to bodge or end up looking crap.

But your suggestion could be the way to go..

Rybo89 · 5 Mar 2013 at 17:04

Hmmm, my exhaust has a a rattle like sound coming from it. New exhaust time?

Phil W · 5 Mar 2013 at 17:37

Heatshield rattle? Get a garage to get it up in the air...

Rybo89 · 5 Mar 2013 at 19:19

Phil W said:
Heatshield rattle? Get a garage to get it up in the air...

Hinting i might get a new exhaust system for it.

Does have a noise coming from it though, was on the MOT advisory as 'Noisy centre front exhaust'?

Which bit may that be you think?

Imy · 6 Mar 2013 at 11:10

Howard said:
I'm also considering double-din nav units... They're so expensive though and it's tricky to find definitive information as to whether they'll fit properly..

I'd like a double-din unit also but decided against getting one equipped with nav as it's far too low down the centre console. You have to completely take your eyes off the road to glance at it.

tummelv · 6 Mar 2013 at 12:46

Haven't been able to shake the urge to get one of these.....some questions:

How many revs are you doing at 70mph in sixth?
What is the power delivery like? Does it pull well from ~1500rpm or do you need some revs on leaving junctions etc.
Is it the kind of car you need to thrash to get the best out of or is it best as a relaxing cruiser? Or equally good both ways?
Can you get heated seats on the full leather or is it only on part leather?
How do the folding mirrors work? Do they auto fold when you lock it or do you hold down a separate button on the key fob/interior of the car?
How are the xenons? Are they really bright white light or kind of bluish?
If you get a model with satnav can you listen to a CD and use the satnav at the same time? I'd imagine you can but I think I read somewhere you can't...

Thanks guys.

Imy · 6 Mar 2013 at 12:59

tummelv said:
Haven't been able to shake the urge to get one of these.....some questions:

How many revs are you doing at 70mph in sixth?

Roughly 2,800 I think

tummelv said:
What is the power delivery like? Does it pull well from ~1500rpm or do you need some revs on leaving junctions etc.

Can be slow moving off from a standstill - especially if going uphill (even slightly) but once you are rolling it pulls strongly. You can make good progress in normal driving without ever going over 3,000rpm.

tummelv said:
Is it the kind of car you need to thrash to get the best out of or is it best as a relaxing cruiser? Or equally good both ways?

It can do both but if you're going to thrash it in a town environment the braking performance may disappoint you as it's not on par with the acceleration.

tummelv said:
Can you get heated seats on the full leather or is it only on part leather?

You get heated seats and full leather as standard on ST220s. With part leather you also get the option of cooled seats in addition I think.

tummelv said:
How do the folding mirrors work? Do they auto fold when you lock it or do you hold down a separate button on the key fob/interior of the car?

Manual control from inside the car although some people have done a mod to make them auto on central locking.

tummelv said:
How are the xenons? Are they really bright white light or kind of bluish?

Not the best on the road as it's a decade old design but still a fair bit better than Halogen. The colour depends on the bulb fitted. I've got 5000k in mine but 4,300k is more common.

tummelv · 6 Mar 2013 at 13:13

Thanks for the quick reply.

You sure it's 2800rpm? Seems kinda high, my 1.6 focus is similar and it's only a 5 speed.

DogsBody · 6 Mar 2013 at 13:13

Imy said:
It can do both but if you're going to thrash it in a town environment the braking performance may disappoint you as it's not on par with the acceleration.

See now a lot of people have said this but i found the braking is plenty good enough, it just isn't as assisted as modern cars which is good because you get a better feeling to the pedal, that said additional braking power on the ST220 can never be a bad thing if you ever decided to mod it

Manual control from inside the car although some people have done a mod to make them auto on central locking.

oh please tell me more, this would be so much better

Not the best on the road as it's a decade old design but still a fair bit better than Halogen. The colour depends on the bulb fitted. I've got 5000k in mine but 4,300k is more common.
I take it you fitted replacement bulbs then ?
Can you use any or is it a specific brand/type, have you noticed a significant difference on the road with the colour changed ?

Howard · 6 Mar 2013 at 13:15

My xenons work really well, they are quite small projector lenses so modern cars with big lenses might throw a little bit further but for me they're brilliant. And much better than halogen.

2700-2800rpm at 70mph in 6th is right.

Imy · 6 Mar 2013 at 13:51

See now a lot of people have said this but i found the braking is plenty good enough, it just isn't as assisted as modern cars which is good because you get a better feeling to the pedal, that said additional braking power on the ST220 can never be a bad thing if you ever decided to mod it

My previous car (MK1 Focus) was a lot lighter and stopped quickly so I kinda expected more performance from the ST220's braking. Not saying it's rubbish - just could be better.

Manual control from inside the car although some people have done a mod to make them auto on central locking.

oh please tell me more, this would be so much better

http://www.fordwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Folding_Mirrors_With_Remote_Key

A word of warning though, the mirrors can get stuck in the closed position after a really cold night (ice build-up).

I take it you fitted replacement bulbs then ?
Can you use any or is it a specific brand/type, have you noticed a significant difference on the road with the colour changed ?

Any 35W D2S HID bulb. The colour is mainly down to personal preference, it's the lumens you need to look at for performance.

I have OSRAM 66240CBI bulbs (+20%) in mine. There's a pic of them in action on page 20 of this thread.

Rybo89 · 6 Mar 2013 at 14:19

Had dents took out, charged me £80. Done a good job too.

Been to DVLA to have private reg put on

Then weeped a bit when I realised I am only getting 50miles to £20 driving like a granny

DogsBody · 6 Mar 2013 at 14:30

Imy said:
My previous car (MK1 Focus) was a lot lighter and stopped quickly so I kinda expected more performance from the ST220's braking. Not saying it's rubbish - just could be better.

http://www.fordwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Folding_Mirrors_With_Remote_Key

A word of warning though, the mirrors can get stuck in the closed position after a really cold night (ice build-up).

Any 35W D2S HID bulb. The colour is mainly down to personal preference, it's the lumens you need to look at for performance.

I have OSRAM 66240CBI bulbs (+20%) in mine. There's a pic of them in action on page 20 of this thread.

Page 20 for me is the last page, and this is page 21. Don't suppose you can link to the post instead can you ? or have I missed it somewhere ?

Were the bulbs easy enough to change ? enoughs space to get to them etc ?

I had actually found that link whilst waiting for you to reply, really good guide that, looks like a fairly simple concept but a fiddly assed job.

I may give it a go at some point.

Imy · 6 Mar 2013 at 14:47

DogsBody said:
Page 20 for me is the last page, and this is page 21. Don't suppose you can link to the post instead can you ? or have I missed it somewhere ?

Were the bulbs easy enough to change ? enoughs space to get to them etc ?

I had actually found that link whilst waiting for you to reply, really good guide that, looks like a fairly simple concept but a fiddly assed job.

I may give it a go at some point.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=23780782&postcount=588

I did the bulbs at same time as upgrading from Halogen units. You have to remove the grill then pull the whole headlight unit out. Then you got easy access to the bulbs. Sounds worse than it is - you just got to undo a couple screws and twist some tabs.

Rybo89 · 6 Mar 2013 at 15:32

Are the front disks 300mm or 320mm?

teenwolf · 6 Mar 2013 at 15:33

Rybo89 said:
Are the front disks 300mm or 320mm?

Is there anything it doesn't need

Howard · 6 Mar 2013 at 15:36

300mm

Rybo89 · 6 Mar 2013 at 15:46

teenwolf said:
Is there anything it doesn't need

What? It isn't in need for anything at all?

Thanks Howard.

DogsBody · 6 Mar 2013 at 17:01

Imy said:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=23780782&postcount=588

I did the bulbs at same time as upgrading from Halogen units. You have to remove the grill then pull the whole headlight unit out. Then you got easy access to the bulbs. Sounds worse than it is - you just got to undo a couple screws and twist some tabs.

Oh I didn't realise you upgraded.
I already have xenon headlights on mine.
Not sure how the bulbs fair over time, wether they lose brightness or whatever. :S