Why are you not vegan....

[bazzabear]

Really? Have you thought about what I posted before you came out with that?

Yes. I'm not sure you did though.

 

[montymint]

Yes maybe it should have been posted in SC where most of the adults appear to be.

There is already a thread in SC.

This started in SC but the title was more inflammatory and the OP wasn't in line with sensible discussion. So the moderating team moved it to GD as the thread started in bad faith.

Edit for reference the original topic was titled:

if you buy meat dairy you support animal abuse

 

[Tony Edwards]

If your genuine aim is animal welfare

No the genuine aim of non meat eaters is for people to stop eating meat. How is that so hard to grasp?
The aim for animal welfare should be down to those that still wish to eat animals. My way no animal is purposely harmed or more importantly killed.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Really? Have you thought about what I posted before you came out with that?

Doesn't matter what you posted, the thread title is asking meat eaters "Why are you not vegan?" therefore the thread is full of meat eaters saying how crap vegan food is.

 

[Tony Edwards]

Yes. I'm not sure you did though.

I dont mind meat eaters airing their views it is the childishness of a lot of the posts I object to. Most of my family eat meat and most of my friends. They dont act like fools about it.

Doesn't matter what you posted, the thread title is asking meat eaters "Why are you not vegan?" therefore the thread is full of meat eaters saying how crap vegan food is.

But it isnt crap. You they/are confusing yourself. Any thing with no animal products is vegan by default. Pasta, olive oil, garlic, tomatoes and mushrooms for instance is vegan by default. Vegetable soup.

You even got the worst non meat sausages to try lol.

 

[Ahleckz]

I'm not sure if a good vegan diet is expensive, it is if you don't put effort in. Vegan subs are definitely expensive!

I do not think it will be quick. I think the tide will turn in my lifetime to a real movement against meat. But it won't be quick. And I don't think the technology is there yet.

My gf is vegan and she used to push me. And it really did put up wall. Now, of my own accord, I'm nearly meat free (dairy is another matter!).
I don't eat chicken products simply as I love my chickens.

But pushing wasn't the answer. What I do like is a nice cooked vegan meal, without a lecture. "how was that?"... "yummy".. "that was vegan". I'll even do vegan meals now. But to be fair they aren't cheap. As I like things like asparagus and avocados (which I know for some aren't vegan!).

That's much more productive than "don't eat meat you monster".

It’s certainly doesn’t have to be expensive but you do need some cooking skills.

I’ve challenged lots of people to post their meal plan so we can compare costs but no one has (I don’t believe I’m the only one that plans a weeks meals!).
If you eat bad, then bad vegan (processed, fake meat etc) food is more expensive than a bad meat including diet (processed, ready meals, etc).

Our weekly/fortnightly shop is definitely more expensive when I’m buying non vegan treats (cheese mainly!) for myself which I don’t do every time.

 

[Ahleckz]

I dont mind meat eaters airing their views it is the childishness of a lot of the posts I object to. Most of my family eat meat and most of my friends. They dont act like fools about it.
But it isnt crap

He’s a dinosaur, he’s unable to recycle, claims putting a coke can in the recycling bin is too complicated for him. He’s probably one of these people that thinks all vegetables are awful. I wouldn’t bother tbh!

 

[SexyGreyFox]

But it isnt crap. You they/are confusing yourself. Any thing with no animal products is vegan by default. Pasta, olive oil, garlic, tomatoes and mushrooms for instance is vegan by default. Vegetable soup.

You even got the worst non meat sausages to try lol.

I knew when I posted it I was talking rubbish
What I meant to say was that the meat substitutes are crap.

 

[Tony Edwards]

It’s certainly doesn’t have to be expensive but you do need some cooking skills.

I think being able to cook properly and enjoy it is one of the big things that allowed or pushed me to be vegetarian (minus farm products).

 

[Tony Edwards]

I knew when I posted it I was talking rubbish
What I meant to say was that the meat substitutes are crap.

I agree with that. Most are but they are getting a lot better. I tried a jackfruit concoction pushed as a substitute for spare ribs in oyster/hoisin sauce as that is one of the biggest things I miss. It was horrible. I think the first mouth full I spat out then tried another and threw the rest in the bin.

 

[Minusorange]

lol. You are acting like meat is the only source of food.

No I'm just stating a fact, that the consumption of meat is natural, if people want to eat it that's on them, what isn't natural is the industry and the horrible welfare for animals

 

[Tony Edwards]

No I'm just stating a fact, that the consumption of meat is natural, if people want to eat it that's on them, what isn't natural is the industry and the horrible welfare for animals

Mate really? Rape is natural.

 

[Minusorange]

Mate really?

Go watch some Eagle cams or Osprey cams, especially when feeding the chicks, go tell them it isn't natural if this is your argument

I say this as I'm eating vegan Pad Thai

 

[Rroff]

Any thing with no animal products is vegan by default. Pasta

Pasta?

 

[Tony Edwards]

Go watch some Eagle cams or Osprey cams, especially when feeding the chicks, go tell them it isn't natural if this is your argument

I say this as I'm eating vegan Pad Thai

I dont understand the point you think you are making?

 

[Tony Edwards]

Pasta?

You know. Its made of flour and water. Italians eat it a lot. You boil it in water and it gets softer.

I was describing a meal not just pasta.

Oh right I forgot you are from up north. Its foreign muck.

 

[Minusorange]

I dont understand the point you think you are making?

You know very well the point I'm making as I literally said it twice, I'll say it a third time, eating meat is natural

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I dont understand the point you think you are making?

Eating meat is normal

 

[Rroff]

You know. Its made of flour and water. Italians eat it a lot. You boil it in water and it gets softer.

I was describing a meal not just pasta.

Almost every pasta is produced using animal products - pasta very much isn't vegan by default, vegetarian maybe, vegan definitely not.

 

[Ahleckz]

Almost every pasta is produced using animal products - pasta very much isn't vegan by default, vegetarian maybe, vegan definitely not.

lol wut?

Pretty much every dried pasta, is vegan.

This is vegan.