Why do lorries do it?

[Sinizterguy]

I am quite happy for them to do whatever they need to do if done in a proper manner. Last time my fiance was driving on the motorway one of these morons (no offence meant to decent drivers) pulled out from the slow lane into middle lane very rapidly with no warning or signal.

She had to swing into the fast lane very quickly to avoid going under the wheels of the big truck. Nearly ended up in an accident. A second to signal and look at his mirror would be appreciated.

To be honest if this was US and I had a gun, shooting out some of his tyres would be something I would have seriously considered.

 

[Overlag]

Trust me, truckers do not try to impede the progress of cars - well, this one does not!

Glad you didn't try to undertake, you'd have been sorry if he'd decided to cut back in whilst you were doing so wouldn't you?

blocking 3 lanes of the m40 over almost 40miles????

i would have tried to undertake but the lorries was tied together.... the guy (in the 3rd lane) doesnt deserve his HGV license at all...

 

[Scania]

blocking 3 lanes of the m40 over almost 40miles????

i would have tried to undertake but the lorries was tied together.... the guy (in the 3rd lane) doesnt deserve his HGV license at all...

Quite agree with you mate.

 

[Muban]

Isnt that illegal lol?

Whats in the picture or how the picture was taken (or both)

 

[Sagalout]

Enough gap for me down the middle there dont see the problem

Haha, beat me to it.

 

[Fireskull]

^^
Hehe slow for a biker

Whats in the picture or how the picture was taken (or both)

Good point both

 

[Lunatic Dreyfus]

as R124/LA420 says... no traffic cops around so no one to stop silly driving like this.

Whenever I see the speed limit be obeyed and sensible, considerate driving driving ahead of me on the motorway, that's when the alarm bells start ringing. You just know the fuzz are around somewhere! But it's a very rare sight, I agree.

I had to sit behind this on the M40 for about 10 minutes earlier this year. I wasn't happy.

Bet the bloke in the Beemer wasn't happy either. He should have been doing 100+ on that stretch.

 

[georges]

I am quite happy for them to do whatever they need to do if done in a proper manner. Last time my fiance was driving on the motorway one of these morons (no offence meant to decent drivers) pulled out from the slow lane into middle lane very rapidly with no warning or signal.

She had to swing into the fast lane very quickly to avoid going under the wheels of the big truck. Nearly ended up in an accident. A second to signal and look at his mirror would be appreciated.

To be honest if this was US and I had a gun, shooting out some of his tyres would be something I would have seriously considered.

Sure there weren't people trying to merge in nearby?

Often happens, as people don't understand, and thus just keep going along the slip road without slowing down oblivious to the fact there is heavy traffic, expecting people to create space for them, which leaves the lorries ******* and they have to pull out.

I saw some woman just plough down the hard shoulder with her horn on, no idea. There was nowhere for the traffic to go (only two lanes, forgotten the road, from Loughborough to chelmsford).

 

[Jonny ///M]

Never really came across lorries taking up 3 lanes but sometimes two lanes.

If you are considerate to lorry drivers then they should be considerate back imo. The other day my dad was sat behind a very larger dumper,a huge artic to the left and a dump truck in the far left lane. Now this is onto a small roundabout which is tight for cars! I have saw women just stay on the inside of the artic and literally get shoved onto the roundaobut but its hardly the truck drivers fault is it? My dad just waiting a bit for the artic to get round and then went on his way.

How many ton are we talking for a fully laden artic?

My neighbour brought this home the other day,was fun to see him reverse it round what are some very narrow streets.

 

[Nitro_Junkie]

guys, quit whinging, truckers have strict time schedules to keep and you've got no idea how much weight they're carrying and how long it takes to build up to 55mph, losing that speed means losing momentum and long periods of acceleration which will drink up more fuel, sat at 55mph they basically move under momentum with very little revs

sure it might hold you up for 5minutes at the most, but if 5minutes makes you late then your time keeping is atrocious anyway

give the truckers a break, you also have no idea how annoying car drivers can be when you're in a truck, no consideration for the seize and weight, diving in in front of one assuming it can slow just like your hatchback

too many up tight people on the road

Is it Sweden that has the law that if lorries are caught in the outside lane during certain times they are made to wait at a designated spot for 4 hours as punishment?

yup, not sure on the exact specifics but certain times vehicles over a certain weight are not allowed to over take

Like Turbo or NITRO

NITROUS, put nitro in a truck, or any vehicle it wasn't explicitly designed for and watch it explode, rant over

 

[Dogbreath]

guys, quit whinging, truckers have strict time schedules to keep and you've got no idea how much weight they're carrying and how long it takes to build up to 55mph, losing that speed means losing momentum and long periods of acceleration which will drink up more fuel, sat at 55mph they basically move under momentum with very little revs

sure it might hold you up for 5minutes at the most, but if 5minutes makes you late then your time keeping is atrocious anyway

Your argument voids R124/LA420s, because if the inside trucker has to back off to let the outside one overtake, he will also lose momentum that has to be slowly built up again. Why should he have to suffer?

If it takes 5 minutes for one truck to overtake another, and say the overtaking truck has to cover an extra 40 meters to get past the slower one, that would be a speed differential of about 0.3mph, about 0.5% faster at 55mph. If that extra speed is really required to reach their destination on time, it doesn't say much for the truckers time keeping does it?

If the trucker had to do, say a 200 mile journey, that speed difference would save them just over 1 minute, assuming that they weren't caught behind another marginaly slower truck for the rest of the journey. Still think it's a worthwhile waste of other motorists time?

I have no problem with trucks overtaking if they plan it properly and know they have enough power to get past in a reasonable time frame, but to start an overtake and then block the road for several miles and then decide to abort is simply selfish behaviour, and they deserve all the abuse they get.

 

[POB]

They should bring in the law I've seen in either Belgium or Holand on the motorway where the trucks are not allowed to overtake during certain hours, its a good solution.

 

[The_Dark_Side]

They were side by side at 55 mph for a good 5-10 minutes and really irritates me!

I doubt it was 5-10 minutes at all. It may have felt like it was that long, but it rarely is.

it really winds me up, it winds me up more when one tries to take other the other but half way through relises hes no faster then slows aliitle and tucks behind him again, or when a slight incline comes ina nd both slow to same speed due to the hill, should be laws stating that at certain times they should not over take, just like in Germany.

Germany has a far better road infrastructure than we have.
just because something works in country "x", doesn't mean it'll work here.

 

[The_Dark_Side]

Perhaps they should have a 65mph button to use at certain occasions

Perhaps they should be set to 60mph instead of 56mph.
the legal limit for an HGV on a motorway is 60, so we have a situation where UK drivers can't even DO the speed limit never mind break it.

How many ton are we talking for a fully laden artic?

44, unless you have special permissions and/or escorts.

 

[shrek2]

Getting rear ended by one of these things will be my worst nightmare which is why they get 100% respect from me.

 

[Jonny ///M]

Perhaps they should be set to 60mph instead of 56mph.
the legal limit for an HGV on a motorway is 60, so we have a situation where UK drivers can't even DO the speed limit never mind break it.

44, unless you have special permissions and/or escorts.

44 ton and the aerodynamics of a brick. Sounds like fun.

I do think there should be some overdrive button or something that lets them do 60-65mph for 1 minute and then not be allowed to use it for X amount of time. Would save so much time but would need sensors or something to show that the truck has something infront of it so it could be allowed to overtake.

oh i dunno

 

[The_Dark_Side]

44 ton and the aerodynamics of a brick. Sounds like fun.

I do think there should be some overdrive button or something that lets them do 60-65mph for 1 minute and then not be allowed to use it for X amount of time. Would save so much time but would need sensors or something to show that the truck has something infront of it so it could be allowed to overtake.

oh i dunno

we have a 56mph limit because of Brussels.
that's as complex as it gets.
that's the limt in europe and here the limit is 60mph, but because we're all one happy band now we have to play by their rules.

 

[Sinizterguy]

Sure there weren't people trying to merge in nearby?

Often happens, as people don't understand, and thus just keep going along the slip road without slowing down oblivious to the fact there is heavy traffic, expecting people to create space for them, which leaves the lorries ******* and they have to pull out.

I saw some woman just plough down the hard shoulder with her horn on, no idea. There was nowhere for the traffic to go (only two lanes, forgotten the road, from Loughborough to chelmsford).

Absolutely. This was on the motorway between junctions. Nothing joing the road, nothing leaving.

 

[dsb]

"Germany has a far better road infrastructure than we have.
just because something works in country "x", doesn't mean it'll work here."

Most of Germanys motorways Autobahns are only two lanes with only a handfull of 3 lanes stretches, its just that the drivers are better disciplined and far better policed.

Have lived in German for the last 3 years.

And before you go saying you don't know what its like I've had my C+E since 2000, granted its no my main job but I've driven some of the biggest road legal trucks around.

Most truckers are arogant arses with no regard to other road users.

 

[The_Dark_Side]

Most truckers are arogant arses with no regard to other road users.

Hey everybody, it's "sweeping generalisation" o clock.

Crap.