Why you SHOULD be using Firefox

[opethdisciple]

Same tabs open in Firefox and Edge. Edge spawned about 20 processes and Firefox 7. (More is better)

I had a video playing via LinkedIn on both browsers. High GPU usage on Firefox at least double.

At this point only ESNI keeps me using Firefox.

 

[opethdisciple]

Isn't ESNI only a cloudflare thing currently working on sites they 'host' ?

I'm finding myself using Edge more often at home lately.

Yup. Only Cloudflare but Cloudflare host millions of sites.

 

[opethdisciple]

FF has been crashing again so I wondered if anyone can tell me what this page is saying

Doesnt say much other than mentions the addons you have installed.

One of them might be causing crashes.

Try to disable them one by one and see if that helps.

This is why I do not use any addons in my browsers. They just cause crashes and security vulnerabilities.

 

[opethdisciple]

Just updated to the new Firefox 83 with it's new 15% Js performance and HTTPS upgrade which is nice.

But posting this because on this page I am getting that message about a script running slow again.

Which makes me unhappy. This only started I believe since Firefox 82 or maybe 81.

 

[opethdisciple]

there's something really weird going on with that page. I opened it up in edge and my malwarebytes add-in blocked content 768 time in seconds lol. 544 of those were attempts to access search.spotxchange.com.

Trackers perhaps?

But why both Chrome and Edge don't complain about it.

I mean on Firefox it stops rendering the page when the slow script message appears which makes it look like from the user perspective the browser is the issue.

 

[opethdisciple]

www.skysports.com/football causes my no end of issues.

The new one is high GPU usage. The GPU goes to 100% (GT 710) I think it is the banners they use either side of the main page.

I also get the 'a script is slowing down this page' message also on this website.

 

[opethdisciple]

Only page given me some trouble at times is the Sky Sports football website. The ad banners either side are very heavy and cause 100% GPU usage in Firefox.

 

[opethdisciple]

So my issues with Firefox is simply because this PC (3570k with a GT 710) is under powered.

I have been using a work laptop with modern hardware and it is very zippy, as zippy as Chrome.

 

[opethdisciple]

Updated to FF 85 just now. May not be related but just noticed that ESNI is no longer working.

Anyone else with it enabled able to confirm here.

Last check remains red where it used to be green.

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OK, so it seems 85 does indeed change something to removes ESNI.

On this PC which was running 84.0.2 ESNI was working, upgrade to 85 and it is not.

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OK, I can find this. It seems like ESNI in it's current form has been replaced by ECH. But I have no idea if that is enabled yet on ff or even if servers out there support it.

 

[opethdisciple]

@opethdisciple Several, including myself, complained in a bug report with Mozilla about this months ago. They have marked it wontfix and are rolling out ECH instead. Unfortunately nobody (not even Cloudflare) supports the ECH draft yet. They say Cloudflare will 'soon' but for now ESNI (in any working form) is absent for Firefox users. To be fair it's absent for everyone else as well, as Firefox were the only browser to implement the draft early. If you want to continue using ESNI for now, install Firefox ESR and hope Cloudflare et al. catch up before ESR catches up past v85-release.

 

[opethdisciple]

FLOC.

Sounds like another reason to not use a Chromium based browser.

By using a Chromium based browser you are essentially allowing Google to direct the future of the web.

Simple as that.

Are you as a Chrome user FloCed?

 

[opethdisciple]

From a couple of articles I have seen on line the new Proton UI is getting good early reviews.

 

[opethdisciple]

I've been using the cloudflare dns and esni since it launched and never experience any slow downloads or speeds.

My only one complaint was when a few months back they had that DNS outage for few mins.

What's the point in having redundant DNS servers if an outage can take them all out?

 

[opethdisciple]

I like the new version.

 

[opethdisciple]

I did find that the latest Nvidia drivers 466.63 do not play well with my GT 710 and Firefox 89.

Yesterday within 3hrs of installing the drivers I had 3 DPC watchdog violation BSODs.

I've since reverted to the previous drivers and everything is rosy again with the world.

I sent off bug report to Nvidia via their feedback.

 

[opethdisciple]

Some on Reddit claiming tomorrows Firefox 113 has speed improvements.

 

[opethdisciple]

What do they mean by "Gradually rolling out"...

I've updated to the latest version but cant see the Firefox view button.

 

[opethdisciple]

I follow this fella on youtube and he always has a few videos on different browsers this week its Firefox variant.

The Best FireFox Browser

FLOORP! It's amazing... some would say the best thing since canned beer! .►► Digital Downloads ➜ https://www.cttstore.com►► Reddit ➜ https://www.reddit.com/r...

www.youtube.com

What I don't like about that feature that allows you to set the browser string to chrome is it doesn't convince web developers to code their application in an browser agnostic way and just further chromifies the web.

 

[opethdisciple]

Got nothing against it, just don't enable the 'spoof chrome' option as you aren't doing anything good for the health of the web.

Its just further making every developer / website out there code their websites for chrome further killing off Firefox.

 

[opethdisciple]

I find T Nation doesn't work correctly in Firefox. Some of their pages have little + boxes that don't open when clicked. (Unless you click a million times)

Try clicking the + here.