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While yes, the extremes of both sides are obviously extreme, the presence of these hard left are over exaggerated. They don't have the vote power or influence that is often touted in these threads when someone mentioned 'the left'. The extreme right may also be a minority but they not only have much older stable roots but organisation and real political representation.

I don't see the hard left leaders anywhere but the hard right leaders are popping up and gaining plenty of popularity

MikeTheNative said:
I agree, but I don't see people promoting hard-line communism anywhere.
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Exactly.
 
subbytna said:
The left in todays context, means "left of centre" Where centre is like a neutral type of political thinking.
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Left of centre in the US, UK, Russia? ;)
It's a largely subjective term that relies quite heavily on where you are and what metrics you are using to define "centre",

The way it's being applied usually seems to be anyone left of the Republican hard right/Tea Party type, which means pretty much every politician in the UK would be "leftist" as for example there are very few politicians, even in the more extreme parts of the conservative party who will openly say they think the NHS should be abolished, yet the idea of a "single payer" or government health service open to all is considered practically communist by the US republicans.

Personally I'm probably pretty much in the middle when it comes to politics, as I agree with pretty much all parties on some policies, but would be considered a socialist by the Americans because I believe in universal health care that is free to access and not reliant on playing games with insurance companies to get coverage (the whole idea of not being able to get decent health care because you've had a previous serious illness is fairly abhorrent to me).
 
tang0 said:
I seem to remember being laughed at in the speakers corner thead, at the idea of there being paedo rings in Hollywood now look at what's happening. Yes pizzgate is also real.

Because the swamp is on both sides, Democrats and Rupublicans. Both sides are blackmailed.

I mean some have tried, Gowdy and Chaffetz to name two
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Seriously - how has this not been quoted 100 times already? Please tell us more about how pizzagate is real (without deflecting)? You also brought up a 'plausible' reason why Alex Jones had to retract the story - a man who's own lawyer admitted in court it's all an act (yes he rant-denied it)........

So how does it work? A paedo asks for pineapple on their pizza, does a wink and a sly readjustment to give the special signal? And then heads to the toilet? Chris Hansen needs to get on this!
 
I won’t get into it here, It’s not appertaining to the topic and I know what sort of replies I’ll get. But I will say, a huge tell in my eyes was when the Department of Homeland Security released a human trafficking awareness ad that featured a pizza shop, with exact same signage as one of the pizza places whose logo had a know pedo symbol in it, which they changed quickly after it all came out.

Don’t be so quick to think that the rinngs don’t exist in high level government, look what happened in ours for decades, Jimmy Saville etc.

Another telling video is of a dutch banker that breaks down in tears detailing what goes on and how he was coerced by high ranking members of the establishment into performing acts on children.

Another video is of a lawyer breaking down in tears after she discovers a secret organ trafficking network with connections to the government.

That and a whole bunch of weird and sordid connections that have been unearthed tells me something right isn’t going on.

Also those who’ve tried to cover it faced immense push back.
 
tang0 said:
I won’t get into it here, It’s not appertaining to the topic and I know what sort of replies I’ll get. But I will say, a huge tell in my eyes was when the Department of Homeland Security released a human trafficking awareness ad that featured a pizza shop, with exact same signage as one of the pizza places whose logo had a know pedo symbol in it, which they changed quickly after it all came out.
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Lolz
 
tang0 said:
I won’t get into it here, It’s not appertaining to the topic and I know what sort of replies I’ll get. But I will say, a huge tell in my eyes was when the Department of Homeland Security released a human trafficking awareness ad that featured a pizza shop, with exact same signage as one of the pizza places whose logo had a know pedo symbol in it, which they changed quickly after it all came out.
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Now in your little conspiracy world fuled by such truth seekers as Alex Jones, don't you think that the huge conspiracy of paedophiles might have stopped that advert?

Back in the slightly more sane world, the signage in most pizza shops tends to be pretty similar, in part because they tend to buy it from the same basic manufacturers, and partly because it's pretty generic regardless of who makes it, something common across most of the fast food industry. I can go to a chippy in my local town and see the same signage as a chippy in Somerset, or one in Southampton, or Newcastle - fast food signage really is generic and standardised because it has to get a message across very simply to people who are in and out in minutes so signs, symbols, even positioning tends to be similar from shop to shop.

Human traffickers are far more likely to be doing things like getting people into the country to work in such places as fast food outlets than using those fast food outlets as part of some sex trafficking ring, if simply because they're aware such outlets are very likely to be checked by immigration for illegal workers and thus the game would be up.

From what i recall, a reasonably large percentage of fast food outlets and restaurants employ people they shouldn't, in part because the law wages are not attractive to residents, and in part because staff turnover tends to be so high that even if they wanted to they couldn't do full checks on everyone.
 
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I gotta get me some popcorn and watch this thread kick off good and proper :D

I say it'll get to page 16 then a mod will close it :p
 
You got to be pretty deluded to think that there’s 0 possibility of a network existing within the US government, when we know it happens all over the world
 
There's more than a 0 chance I am going to win Euromillions, retake some world record scores on the GC version of Monkey Ball and win all of my matched bets tomorrow......but none of these things will happen.

Define happens all over the world? Are there paedos working in the US government? Yes, probably. Are there a network of them using pizza stores as a front to orchestrate one of the world's largest paedo rings? No and have yet to see proof to suggest otherwise.

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Brilliant :P:D ^
 
No one doubts the existence of criminal networks in all levels of society. They are doubting the the pizza signage crap because it sounds like it is made up by a lunatic and believed in by idiots.
 
Classic disinformation, the signage was the tip of the iceberg, it started the ball rolling with tons more connections.

It’s like when Hillary goes on TV and deflects from the contents of the Podesta emails and claims they were ‘weaponized’. Saying people believed that she was running a child trafficking ring out of a pizza shop, which no one believes. It’s more likely that the shops are used as a meetip place for likeminded cretins. Just like the guy who was busted by project veritas for discussing plans to disrupt the Deploraball last year with gas. He went to prison for it, and was later found out he was posting on pedo forums
 
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Your degrees of separation remind me of....


tang0 said:
Just like the guy who was busted by project veritas for discussing plans to disrupt the Deploraball last year with gas. He went to prison for it, and was later found out he was posting on pedo forums
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Do you mean Scott R. Charney? All indications seem to point to an arrest and some community service, no mention of prison or posting in a paedo forum.
 
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