Will Smith hits Chris Rock on Oscars stage

mid_gen · 29 Mar 2022 at 15:52

Fubsy said:
How exactly is Carr "cashing in". He hasn't changed a bit, however predicted outrage on his latest material and he was right. It's tame in comparison to other stuff.

'His Dark Material' tour....OMG I'm about to say something REALLY BAD and my CAREER IS GOING TO BE OVER LOL!!! Wait til the wokie bogeyman comes after me for this!

You're being played like a fiddle....

Fubsy · 29 Mar 2022 at 15:55

mid_gen said:
'His Dark Material' tour....OMG I'm about to say something REALLY BAD and my CAREER IS GOING TO BE OVER LOL!!! Wait til the wokie bogeyman comes after me for this!

You're being played like a fiddle....

Yes?! I get it. It was a joke within a joke. If anyone is being played like a fiddle it's the people that went after him for his joke, that he pre-faced within a section called "career-enders" that were nothing of the sort and standard Carr jokes.

Still, comedians should be NOT be defending their material. They are artists and they are neither objectively funny or unfunny, it's a subjective form that the paying customer should decide on. Not some morality police that has no talent other than to comb the entertainment world for wrong think.

Voltar · 29 Mar 2022 at 16:54

Seen people praising Will Smith. I don’t get why. He assaulted someone during the Oscars.

maybe stand up comedians should perform behind glass so the audience can’t go up and assault them.

Skynet5 · 29 Mar 2022 at 17:30

uncle_rufus said:
With the dust settling a little bit I feel I've come around to the idea that although it was quite a weak joke it really wasn't as mean spirited as people are trying to make out. If he'd said something like "hey I hear Peter Jackson is making a new LOTR movie and the auditions are open for Gollum if you hurry" then fair enough, but last I checked Demi Moore in GI Jane doesn't seem like a particularly unkind comparison - a beautiful woman who played a part with her head shaved.

So as usual online communities have ran away with the "oh I am so offended on her behalf" and like her husband are making themselves look pretty foolish right about now

I align to this.

My other half doesn't. She seems to think what was said was unacceptable and her husband was standing up for her.

I just laughed and said I would just laugh along too like he was doing, and if you got emotionally mad you can smack him or make some comment. No chance off that I would be doing anymore more than a smart response if opportunity arose.

I think Will is looking at his wife and not knowing what to do. Over protective of something he probably doesn't want anymore. I'm sure that's a thing.

Skynet5 · 29 Mar 2022 at 17:32

Voltar said:
Seen people praising Will Smith. I don’t get why. He assaulted someone during the Oscars.

maybe stand up comedians should perform behind glass so the audience can’t go up and assault them.

Have to be seen for standing up and protecting. He is a knight in shining armour to most women and most men. Bunch of softies.

ANDREW GREEN · 29 Mar 2022 at 17:43

Lysander said:
Here we go, here come 'other people's opinions' being wheeled out. Like has happened so much in thus thread, so much of it is people regurgitating other peoples' opinions as their own and thinking they are the ones who have the original opinion, when it's the opposite.

Look, I'm a fan of Steve Hughes. I've always liked his stuff BUT there are some things you do not take the **** out of. Medical conditions, rapes, murders etc. There is a line and saying "grow up and stop being offended" does not cut it in all situations. If you say "there should be no line" then you are most likely unsocialised.

For my life, how are you comparing being a baldy to rapes and murders. Rival football fans must be commiting a genocide against Pep Guardiola

rare · 29 Mar 2022 at 17:50

lnoton said:
Have to be seen for standing up and protecting. He is a knight in shining armour to most women and most men. Bunch of softies.

No he isn’t. It doesn’t make you a hard man because you punch a comic who makes a joke. It makes you an idiot.

ANDREW GREEN · 29 Mar 2022 at 17:59

lnoton said:
Have to be seen for standing up and protecting. He is a knight in shining armour to most women and most men. Bunch of softies.

Knight in shining armor against a small mans inoffensive jokes?

I've learnt 1 thing from this thread and it seems half of people seem to prefer narcissistic celebs to jokes and the freedom of speech

MatsyLR · 29 Mar 2022 at 18:23

ANDREW GREEN said:
Knight in shining armor against a small mans inoffensive jokes?

I've learnt 1 thing from this thread and it seems half of people seem to prefer narcissistic celebs to jokes and the freedom of speech

Everyone at the Oscars should know fine well they are fair game for jokes at their own expense, its part of the whole thing.

In the end Will assaulted someone and isn't being punished for it, which is completely wrong. Good on Chris for not retaliating. should have made another joke about his wife screwing everyone just mess with him.

Skynet5 · 29 Mar 2022 at 18:57

rare said:
No he isn’t. It doesn’t make you a hard man because you punch a comic who makes a joke. It makes you an idiot.

ANDREW GREEN said:
Knight in shining armor against a small mans inoffensive jokes?

I've learnt 1 thing from this thread and it seems half of people seem to prefer narcissistic celebs to jokes and the freedom of speech

It was said with sarcasm, clearly I failed. Lol

adam cool dude · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:15

Has this been remixed with Blue Monday yet? My life will be complete then.

rare · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:15

lnoton said:
It was said with sarcasm, clearly I failed. Lol

You should know as a veteran user when using sarcasm on a forum you have to go REALLY overboard

Christmas themed thank · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:16

P&O are considering hiring Smith for PR advice

norm · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:17

steve_c said:
Why would Will Smith (net worth circa. $350m) agree to a stunt which:

1) Paints him in an extremely bad light
2) Has him screaming the "F-bomb" which will no doubt be heard and spoken about by countless children
3) Has zero positive outcomes for him
4) Ruin the reputation of the Oscars
5) Gets everyone talking about his wife and her alopecia
6) Puts the infidelities of his wife at the forefront of current affairs (I had no idea about them until now)

I know everyone loves to jump on the "It was fake, it was a setup" bandwagon but this is surely beyond the pale.

Does it paint him in a bad light though? He's standing up for his wife's honour, old fashioned I know, but women will respect that.

In Hollywood controversy and drama sells, it keeps celebrities in the public eye. There will be talk show appearances, Will Smith and Chris Rock will be in hot demand.

After apologies have been made the public won't care one bit.

It's the way showbusiness works nowadays, make a big stunt get people talking, raise awareness of an issue, get people watching and taking interest. Viewers = advertising = money. Next year's Oscars will be probably follow a similar tact, because viewers are expecting something to happen. Notice how Chris Rock said "it's the greatest night in television", yes of course because that's what you ultimately want people to think at home.

Colonel_Klinck · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:24

V F said:
Comedians are already talking today how it's dead in case someone gets offended.

Look how old this is and what was happening then. It's from 2007. It still stands today.

3:20

Sorry I just don't buy the comedy is dead because of "offended". Lots of comedians are still offensive, I'm going to see Stewart Lee in April and I know he's going to be offensive. Some comedians might be complaining but maybe they just aren't as funny.

azazl187 · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:28

Voltar said:
Seen people praising Will Smith. I don’t get why. He assaulted someone during the Oscars.

maybe stand up comedians should perform behind glass so the audience can’t go up and assault them.

A guy gets a slap for mugging off another guys wife and apparently now every comedian is going to get assaulted.

1+1= 1000 right?

steve_c · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:40

norm said:
Does it paint him in a bad light though? He's standing up for his wife's honour, old fashioned I know, but women will respect that.

In Hollywood controversy and drama sells, it keeps celebrities in the public eye. There will be talk show appearances, Will Smith and Chris Rock will be in hot demand.

After apologies have been made the public won't care one bit.

It's the way showbusiness works nowadays, make a big stunt get people talking, raise awareness of an issue, get people watching and taking interest. Viewers = advertising = money. Next year's Oscars will be probably follow a similar tact, because viewers are expecting something to happen. Notice how Chris Rock said "it's the greatest night in television", yes of course because that's what you ultimately want people to think at home.

He physically assaulted someone *in public* and screamed "Get my wife's name out your ******** mouth".

This event will be replayed over and over and over.

He's one of the highest paid actors of all time and is worth over $300m why on earth would he play along with something like this? Money? More fame? It doesn't make sense.

It does paint him in an extremely bad light.

Those trying to justify what he did are completely deluded. There's no excuse for violence in this day and age.

norm · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:46

steve_c said:
He physically assaulted someone *in public* and screamed "Get my wife's name out your ******** mouth".

This event will be replayed over and over and over.

He's one of the highest paid actors of all time and is worth over $300m why on earth would he play along with something like this? Money? More fame? It doesn't make sense.

It does paint him in an extremely bad light.

Those trying to justify what he did are completely deluded. There's no excuse for violence in this day and age.

Ask yourself why was Will Smith conveniently placed at the front of the stage with easy access to it, the camera's were angled to capture both their reactions perfectly. Will Smith was seen laughing along at the remark CR made that supposedly angered him so much?

It's typical pantomime nonsense. Of course the Academy Awards let's any of the guests randomly walk up on stage mid performance, and not cut away the camera in fear of what might happen etc etc CR himself was angled and poised for what was going to play out, who stands perfectly still with their hands behind their back when somebody unexpectedly approaches them.

Raymond Lin · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:47

norm said:
Ask yourself why was Will Smith conveniently placed at the front of the stage with easy access to it, the camera's were angled to capture both their reactions perfectly. Will Smith was seen laughing along at the remark CR made that supposedly angered him so much?

It's typical pantomime nonsense. Of course the Academy Awards let's any of the guests randomly walk up on stage mid performance, and not cut away the camera in fear of what might happen etc etc CR himself was angled and poised for what was going to play out, who stands perfectly still with their hands behind their back when somebody unexpectedly approaches them.

All the best actor nominees are seated at the front.

I mean where else do you seat them?

V F · 29 Mar 2022 at 19:48

mid_gen said:
Like I said, gullible people people being exploited. 'Cancel culture' wasn't around in 2007 because it's the phrase was invented by the political right in recent years....it used to be called 'political correctness' and the same people were whining about it back then as are now.

Carr is a classic example of someone cashing in on manufactured outrage....and you fall for it, hook, line and sinker.

I've fallen for it?

Will Smith hits Chris Rock on Oscars stage

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