Windows 10

ED209 · 2 Feb 2015 at 11:08

i did have a quick look for it the other day but i couldn't find it so gave up lol

xbenjiiman · 2 Feb 2015 at 12:12

Looks like Windows 10 is coming to the recently released Raspberry Pi 2! Most likely going to be some custom ARM build (like Windows RT but hopefully not as bad).

http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support

meandu229 · 2 Feb 2015 at 12:16

xbenjiiman said:
Looks like Windows 10 is coming to the recently released Raspberry Pi 2! Most likely going to be some custom ARM build (like Windows RT but hopefully not as bad).

http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support

I dont think this will be a consumer level OS. It looks like its the internet of things which I dont think has a proper windows UI. I might be wrong though.

Phil2008 · 2 Feb 2015 at 12:34

robgmun said:
I have to agree, those icons are just so horrible, playschool even, i really don't know what on earth they were thinking and it really distracts from the experience because they're so prevalent

Well you guys know how I feel about the look of windows 10 so I wont repeat myself. Just hope they do some major improvements to it before or on release date, but I think its going to be another windows 8/8.1.

ED209 said:
i did have a quick look for it the other day but i couldn't find it so gave up lol

Its in the Start>Settings>Update & Recovery, or what's left of it anyway as you cannot change much in the windows update part. But Im sure it will all be back in the control panel when its released.

xbenjiiman · 2 Feb 2015 at 13:16

meandu229 said:
I dont think this will be a consumer level OS. It looks like its the internet of things which I dont think has a proper windows UI. I might be wrong though.

Aye, you're right there. Though with it being a special Pi build, they may surprise us with a GUI.

Glaucus · 2 Feb 2015 at 14:13

I would be very surprised if it wasn't a full GUI with apps and programming tools.
After all it seems the plan is to get people programming in the Microsoft eco system.

Time will tell.

markweatherill · 2 Feb 2015 at 15:45

Glaucus said:
I would be very surprised if it wasn't a full GUI with apps and programming tools.
After all it seems the plan is to get people programming in the Microsoft eco system.

Time will tell.

Well. It better have DirectX 12.

And, hey they can call it Windows 3.14...

xbenjiiman · 2 Feb 2015 at 16:43

meandu229 said:
I dont think this will be a consumer level OS. It looks like its the internet of things which I dont think has a proper windows UI. I might be wrong though.

Glaucus said:
I would be very surprised if it wasn't a full GUI with apps and programming tools.
After all it seems the plan is to get people programming in the Microsoft eco system.

Time will tell.

Note: Windows 10 on Pi 2 will be an IoT platform, not a desktop OS.
You'll develop your app in Visual Studio on a Windows PC and deploy it to the Pi.
Raspbian will continue to be the main supported OS.
- Ben from Raspberry Pi

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8983801

Vimes · 2 Feb 2015 at 17:30

robgmun said:
I have to agree, those icons are just so horrible, playschool even, i really don't know what on earth they were thinking and it really distracts from the experience because they're so prevalent

I'm not sure if MS have ever come to the level of Apple and their OS icon set. I have rarely enjoyed but merely endured Windows icons although I don't seem to have the will to change them with icon packs etc as I did years ago.

Those "10" icons look like playschool Crayola drawn type, so garish.

V F · 2 Feb 2015 at 17:55

Vimes said:
I'm not sure if MS have ever come to the level of Apple and their OS icon set. I have rarely enjoyed but merely endured Windows icons although I don't seem to have the will to change them with icon packs etc as I did years ago.

Those "10" icons look like playschool Crayola drawn type, so garish.

Thats why they had to hire Mac artists. The iconfactory.

http://design.iconfactory.com/microsoft-windows-vista-icon-suite/

sastusbulbas · 2 Feb 2015 at 19:44

Minecraft is not working properly for me, lag, freezes, etc

RavenXXX2 · 2 Feb 2015 at 21:49

mark2410 said:
hi,, just checking im not being a total idiot but.....

they have removed the ability to only manually run windows update???

Disable New Windows Update UI and Enable Previous UI

Microsoft has also updated Windows Update UI in the latest Windows 10 build 9926 and some people are facing problems with this new UI.

Interested people can disable this new Windows Update UI and bring back the old UI using following method:

1. In Registry Editor, go to following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\WindowsUpdate\UX

2. In right-side pane, change value of IsConvergedUpdateStackEnabled DWORD to 0

That's it. It'll immediately disable the new Windows Update UI.

If you want to restore new Windows Update UI, change value of IsConvergedUpdateStackEnabled DWORD to 1 again.

mark2410 · 3 Feb 2015 at 10:43

thank you.

im still a bit stunned that ms has gone so out of its way to disable manually updating though. seems mad.

ED209 · 3 Feb 2015 at 10:56

sastusbulbas said:
Minecraft is not working properly for me, lag, freezes, etc

i will get my son to test it on my PC. im on the latest build and i can play csgo and fc4 fine with no issues.

JRS · 3 Feb 2015 at 11:15

mark2410 said:
thank you.

im still a bit stunned that ms has gone so out of its way to disable manually updating though. seems mad.

Presumably it's because they want everyone to have all the updates installed on the auto update cycle while the OS is still in the preview build phase. Not entirely unreasonable I'd have thought.

mark2410 · 3 Feb 2015 at 11:45

JRS said:
Presumably it's because they want everyone to have all the updates installed on the auto update cycle while the OS is still in the preview build phase. Not entirely unreasonable I'd have thought.

so have it default to auto update. you could still allow manual to operate in addition.

mostly though, if windows update starts updating drivers, because we all know how awesome windows update is for drivers, and then breaks something i will be hugely annoyed

ED209 · 3 Feb 2015 at 11:47

issue is that if windows 10 wants to update at 3am my PC will never be on at that time lol

that used to be the default time if i remember correctly in windows 7

JRS · 3 Feb 2015 at 11:54

mark2410 said:
so have it default to auto update. you could still allow manual to operate in addition.

mostly though, if windows update starts updating drivers, because we all know how awesome windows update is for drivers, and then breaks something i will be hugely annoyed

Again - it's a preview build, stuff is going to break. If that's not something you're prepared to put up with, go back to a full release version of Windows. Alternatively, stick with the 10 Preview Builds and give feedback to Microsoft when stuff doesn't work.

Just don't go all Princess Stampyfoot™ and moan on a forum when something on a not-even-released-yet operating system goes a bit funny

ED209 said:
issue is that if windows 10 wants to update at 3am my PC will never be on at that time lol

that used to be the default time if i remember correctly in windows 7

Mine seems to default to 10pm rather than 3am, I think you can still change the time that it restarts to install updates though.

MagicBoy · 3 Feb 2015 at 13:44

mark2410 said:
so have it default to auto update. you could still allow manual to operate in addition.

mostly though, if windows update starts updating drivers, because we all know how awesome windows update is for drivers, and then breaks something i will be hugely annoyed

It's Alpha software in active development. If you're not happy with Microsoft "breaking" something then go back to an RTM operating system.

Elevon · 3 Feb 2015 at 14:54

mark2410 said:
so have it default to auto update. you could still allow manual to operate in addition.

mostly though, if windows update starts updating drivers, because we all know how awesome windows update is for drivers, and then breaks something i will be hugely annoyed

Don't take this the wrong way but I get annoyed when I read posts like this,first it's preview alpha/beta build so YOU use it at your OWN RISK,by design it's for feedback and testing purposes only, so you are basically unpaid tester for their software.

Don't expect a perfect OS from a preview OS build because you won't get one,end of the day was your choice to install and use a preview build so your issue not Microsoft's.

There are many reasons why quite a few people wait for final/RTM builds and then some.