Windows 10

EDIT: This is starting to **** me off seriously - just booted back into Windows 10 on it and bunch of new icons for bubble something, candy crush and war of lords or something appeared which were not there when I shut down, new edge icons on the desktop, etc. obviously just the links but still and the language toolbar has popped up and activated the US language like someone mentioned before.
If you want to remove most of the pre-installed rubbish, run the two commands below in Powershell:
Code:
Get-AppxPackage -AllUsers | Remove-AppxPackage
Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -online | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -online
 
Is there away to stop w10 installing the crap games? I remove the games and five mins later I see them in the start menu with a process bar being re installed.

In 24 hours they have been removed about 6 times. I had to use w10 for a 2200g build and I hate it already.

I ran both the above commands in power shell as a admin but didn't stop them re appearing.
 
Annoyingly I think you have to sign into the app store, update everything then use those commands :( and even then I've had some stuff reappear on subsequent reboots :(

Given the constant scrolling of new issues with 1803 on the official Windows 10 forums and fairly frequent new serious issues with certain hardware, etc. coming to light it is way past time they gave up on this forced update ****.
 
thats a shame, I installed 1709 because of waiting for a gpu update on the 2200g side of things. I am hating windows 10 more and more every time I use it

I am using windows 10 pro as well so not home version and I am using a local account and not hotmail to sign in as it's my sons new pc and doesn't have an account
 
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I don't have any of the games reinstalling, then again I don't even have the windows store on my pc because I uninstalled that and all the other crap with ccleaner after installing 10.

Windows update re-enabling itself every day is doing my head in. I disable it in services, delete all the entries in task scheduler relating to it and disabled everything to do with it in gpedit and it still re-enables everyday. On top of that I selected defer feature updates for 365 days, pause updates in Settings, Updates and Security, Advanced but windows doesn't seem to take any notice of this because it still does whatever it pleases anyway. I am sick and fed up with this. ******* Microsoft!!
 
Reading the latest insider build notes makes me want to facepalm - they are putting in mitigations for a number of things THAT WEREN'T A PROBLEM UNTIL YOU (MS) MADE THEM A PROBLEM! and instead of just going back and doing things how they always used to be done which just WORKED they are putting in more stupid mitigations like "focus assist" and usage monitoring (which actually isn't a bad idea itself but it is in response to people complaining about problems managing data due to the way the OS pretty much ignores metered settings whenever it wants to. And more of those silly "hours" type settings (increasingly fewer people live a regular 9-5 where their usage of the OS is that predictable any more if they ever did).

I really wish it was viable for me to move away from Windows in the long run. But with MS's dominance in the OS scene it isn't really something where there is much in the way of realistic options.
 
Reading the latest insider build notes makes me want to facepalm - they are putting in mitigations for a number of things THAT WEREN'T A PROBLEM UNTIL YOU (MS) MADE THEM A PROBLEM! and instead of just going back and doing things how they always used to be done which just WORKED they are putting in more stupid mitigations like "focus assist" and usage monitoring (which actually isn't a bad idea itself but it is in response to people complaining about problems managing data due to the way the OS pretty much ignores metered settings whenever it wants to. And more of those silly "hours" type settings (increasingly fewer people live a regular 9-5 where their usage of the OS is that predictable any more if they ever did).

I really wish it was viable for me to move away from Windows in the long run. But with MS's dominance in the OS scene it isn't really something where there is much in the way of realistic options.

If it was possible to attach a monitor to an Android tablet or if there are some ultrabooks...
 
Catch 22. You won't move because of MS' dominance, yet MS are only dominant because you won't move :)

If it was possible to attach a monitor to an Android tablet or if there are some ultrabooks...

A large part of my usage the software either simply doesn't exist on Linux or only has inferior versions and/or can't be run under stuff like Wine stable.

Some of the stuff I do for work requires a Windows system, etc. and then you have things like gaming.

This isn't like choosing between models of cars or I'd have (and I suspect increasing numbers would have) left for Ubuntu for good long ago.
 
That's the thing though. If more people used Linux, it would develop quicker and there would be more/better applications, but nothing changes because everyone's too scared to take the plunge.

There's a lot of software that will work on Linux either natively or via wine as you mentioned, but it's only ever going to get better with more people using it making it more likely developers will start making Linux versions of Windows software by default.

It's getting there, just slowly. :)
 
That's the thing though. If more people used Linux, it would develop quicker and there would be more/better applications, but nothing changes because everyone's too scared to take the plunge.

There's a lot of software that will work on Linux either natively or via wine as you mentioned, but it's only ever going to get better with more people using it making it more likely developers will start making Linux versions of Windows software by default.

It's getting there, just slowly. :)

As you said catch 22 - I'd just be booting into Windows most of the time so as to actually do a lot of the stuff I do making it largely an exercise in pointlessness.

I have some systems doing specific things on Debian and a couple of Ubuntu installs (one VM) and have the original Sony Xperia tablet Z as well as my Windows tablets.
 
I use Windows 10 in a Fusion VM on my MacBook Pro for Windows stuff that I need. Main PC obviously has Win 10 on it but I’d prefer not to use it. Such a shame that MS have the gaming market covered due to DX.
 
I used to have two Windows Servers and four Windows clients. I now have:
  • A dual boot on my gaming machine, but the Windows partition hardly ever gets used now as most of the games I play work in wine or have Linux versions now
  • A Windows 10 virtual machine for the one piece of software I haven't found a decent Linux alternative for (VideoReDo). Pity as VRD almost works on wine
  • Everything else is now Ubuntu
So while I do still 'need' Windows for a few things, I mostly get by now without it and require a lot less Windows licences
 
All i keep reading in this thread is, rolled back, latest versions crap, can't install the latest version, just fails everytime, stuck in a boot loop etc..., so genuine questions.

What are you all doing who can't/wont update to the latest version, are you all just going to stay on an old outdated version ?, and what happens when you can't install later updates, like for security etc..., because you are not running the latest version, which you need to be running, before you can install them, are you all buggered ?, and are more newer versions due, which will render yours even older and outdated ?
 
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Genuine Questions.

What are all those doing who can't/wont update to the latest version, are you all just going to stay on an old outdated version ?, and what happens when you can't install later updates, like for security etc..., because you are not running the latest version, which you need to be running, before you can install them, are you all buggered ?, and are more newer versions due (20/30/40/50 something etc...), which will render yours even older and outdated ?

Usually if you stay on an older build for awhile i.e. if you've not turned a machine on for 6 months or whatever there is a cumulative build between that and the latest version you have to update to and then once you are on that you can update to the latest version.
 
Usually if you stay on an older build for awhile i.e. if you've not turned a machine on for 6 months or whatever there is a cumulative build between that and the latest version you have to update to and then once you are on that you can update to the latest version.

What if after doing the cumulative build, the new version still fails to go on, or gives you boot loops etc.... ?

Sounds like a right ball ache :p

Im glad i stuck to 7.
 
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What if after doing the cumulative build, the new version still fails to go on, or gives you boot loops etc.... ?

Sounds like a right ball ache :p

Im gald i stuck to 7.

Indeed. It is my main OS even though 10 is on the other drive.

I also keep an eye on this. https://www.askwoody.com/patch-list-master/
I don't trust Microsoft at all. One time I had no fear of installing each update as they were available. No more.
 
About to install the Windows 10 April 2018 Update? You might want to wait a little bit longer

Apps fingered in vanishing desktop snafu

Updated The troubled Windows 10 April 2018 update is facing another issue, with some users losing access to their desktop after installing the new code.

The problem, which first appeared in a posting on a Microsoft support forum on 14 May, has gained a bit of traction over the last two days with users taking to social media as they go through the three stages of installing this update: frustration, fury and despair.

The affected users report that after accepting the request to "restart and install" Windows 10 and waiting the requisite hour or so for the update do its stuff, users can find themselves staring at a blank desktop with no icons. An alarming message stating that the Desktop file could not be accessed is then shown.

The error suggests that something fishy has happened at a system file level.

The Register spoke to Computer Cellar, an independent computer repair outfit in Durham, North Carolina, which took to Reddit to point the finger at the Avast antivirus application after spotting what appeared to be a commonality in the wave of complaints. The shop recommended that uninstalling the AV tool would likely be a good idea before letting the April 2018 Update loose on a working copy of Windows 10.

Afflicted users have found that none of the Windows 10 built-in repair options deal with the issue and have had to resort to creating a fresh install of the operating system. Microsoft helpfully provides a tool to do this very thing, although you will need a working PC on hand to make it work – something that might be a problem if your only PC has been borked.

Antivirus tools have long been a bit of a bête noire as far as Windows 10 has been concerned, with Microsoft chastising some vendors for making naughty calls to places where they shouldn't in the Windows kernel. Redmond also attracted the ire of Kaspersky for allegedly removing third-party antivirus software during updates – before the antivirus company backed down in August 2017.

While the issue is relatively widespread, it does not appear to affect a catastrophic number of users. Windows 10 users who have already successfully installed the update are not affected.

The Register asked Microsoft to discuss the matter and was told it is probing the situation. We also requested a comment from Avast. ®

Updated to add

A spokesperson for Avast told El Reg:
"We have tested this and couldn't identify any problems affecting Avast Antivirus consumer users specifically. Online user comments show that many are unfortunately experiencing problems updating to Windows 10 ‘1803’. We cannot rule out that a small number of Avast users may be having difficulties updating, too, but we don't see any indications that this is caused by Avast."



Source: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/22/windows_10_update_woes_redux/
 
Windows 10 is turning into a bigger farce with each big update. Then there are people who say that those of us who disable windows updates to see if there are any problems before updating ourselves are idiotic!! It's issues such as this that proves our point. I just wish there was a fuss free viable alternative. :(
 
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