Winter 2020/2021

The Daily Express says temperatures are going to hit -12C.
Which means it'll be a mild 10 degrees with some visible solar flares.

Express has more outlandish predictions than Nostrodamus. And he was probably more accurate.

Bloody warm on this morning's run. Very much over dressed!

Same here don't even have the heating on at the moment was in double figures yesterday. All change for teh weekend turning cold and probably wet. Again.
 
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Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday showing constant snow down here in Southampton albeit light snow at that. .....Yeah right. So that'll be 3 days of rain.
 
BBC back to showing 3 days of snow here as well.

As I mentioned looks like there has been a bit of a mess up with weather data - not really sure what went wrong - we might see a better picture in a day or two.

Looks like a fair bit come down today in places

All the ingredients have been hanging around but they only seem to come together in isolated events - if this had been 30-50 years ago we'd have been looking at one of those notable winters like 62/63 (probably not quite that extreme). Instead there just hasn't been the depth of cold to draw on.
 
BBC monthly outlook
Summary
Colder through mid-February but largely dry
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Wednesday 3 February – Sunday 7 February
Unsettled week with a colder weekend
From midweek through to the end of the working week, a low pressure system is expected to linger over the UK and bring quite a lot of unsettled weather. Heavy snow is expected most days for Scotland, generally above 200m, and occasionally into northern England too. Heavy rain is expected in the north and northeast as well with the low pressure centre often sat in the Midlands. Southern areas will be a bit more variable with occasional rain mixed with some sunny spells at times.
This weekend though, we are in for a change as high pressure builds to the north of Europe. This will gradually push the weak low over the UK southwards towards France. As the low moves south, a cold easterly wind will develop, first in Scotland and then spreading south through Saturday and Sunday.
The high will be bringing colder air from northwest Russia through the Baltic and North Seas and into the UK. As the colder air crosses the relatively warmer North Sea, heavy showers are likely to develop and move into eastern and central parts of Britain. With the colder polar airmass, these showers may fall as snow even to low levels, possibly as low as sea level. Western areas will tend to remain dry but cold once the low clears away to the south.
Confidence is reasonably high for the rest of this week, but there is still some uncertainty on how quickly the low will clear away to the south and it may linger through the weekend. The risk is for a milder and wetter weekend for southern areas.

Monday 8 February – Sunday 14 February
Colder, potentially snowy start to the week
In mid-February, high pressure is expected to remain over Scandinavia throughout the week, keeping things rather cold. This setup is similar to the classic "Beast from the East" from 2018, and there is potential for some heavy snow showers for eastern areas for the first half of the week. This is very sensitive to the strength of the high to the northeast, so it is still a bit too early to accurately predict snow amounts, but the greatest chances are in the eastern and central parts of Britain. We have high confidence that the high pressure system will develop, and it will turn colder than normal. The coldest days will tend to be around midweek as the air from Russia finally arrives in force.
Later in the week, the high in Scandinavia is expected to shift slightly further south and southeast, nearer to Belarus or western Russia. This shift should kill off any easterly winds through the North Sea, shifting them more southeast. This is still a cold flow for us in this setup, but much less cold than the first half of the week is expected to be. This weather pattern is also drier for the UK, so some crisp afternoon sunshine is expected. Without a cold flow over the relative warm North Sea, the risk of lowland snow showers is also lower.
The main risk to the mid-February forecast is for the easterly winds to linger for longer into the second half of the week if the high pressure system stubbornly remains over Scandinavia. This would make for a very cold, windy week across the country, but more so for eastern areas where it will feel very raw outside.

Monday 15 February – Sunday 28 February
Cold, dry middle of the month; milder later
For the second half of February, the drier and colder pattern from mid-February is expected to continue for the third week of the month. High pressure is likely to remain strong to the north of Europe and into northeast and eastern Europe, resulting in some colder air sticking around for the UK as low pressure systems travel south into the Mediterranean. There is a chance for a few brief mild spells to break up the cold as weak fronts find their way into the UK from the southwest, but these are expected to be short-lived 1-2 day events.
For the final week of February, high pressure to the north of Europe is expected to slowly decline and shift further away, allowing the jet stream, a ribbon of fast-moving air in the upper atmosphere that drives weather systems, to return to northern Europe. This type of pattern allows Atlantic weather systems to bring wetter but milder air in from the sub-tropical Atlantic as cold air becomes increasingly confined to Russia and Scandinavia.
There is some uncertainty on the exact timing of the pattern shift though, and these cold winter highs tend to be rather tenacious and slow to decline. The main risk for late February is that high pressure and colder air stick around through the end of the month and into early March, making for a cold but somewhat dry February overall.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/outlook
 
This has been worst month I can remember for years.

Wet, cold, lockdown.

Hopefully what they say about Feb is true. Dry and cold
 
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday showing constant snow down here in Southampton albeit light snow at that. .....Yeah right. So that'll be 3 days of rain.

And changed already lol. No snow now for Monday, Tuesday light snow all day Wednesday sleet.

I'll quote this message tomorrow saying no snow Tuesday, you watch.

Forecasting whether is largely pointless and never accurate even a day out. It is what it is.
 
Very cold and wet here through January (Newcastle), no snow that has hung around for more than an hour or so, too close to the coast where we are I guess. Friend of mine lives in upper Weardale near Nenthead in a really isolated valley and has had a good foot of snow on a few occasions so far this winter. They park their car by the road and have a quad bike to get to the house at the minute (1/2 mile dirt track)

My son is nearly 7 and he's never seen proper snow yet!
 
They seem to be having trouble modelling those lows and that could make a significant difference here as to what we get due to the height of the so called uppers (850hpa) - potentially amplifying the effect of the cold.
 
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Weather, kinda :p Solar weather.... Just got back from a walk after seeing an alert for high chance of seeing them. Its taken in night mode on the phone camera so its way over exposed and alterated but you get the idea.
Not the best ive seen but very cool none the less. A lot of light pollution too. :(
 
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Amazing capture that to see that where you live must be awesome!

Saying snow here for Saturday night and pretty much half the day Sunday BBC issued a weather warning now they didn't for last weekend here!
 
Looks like confidence on most of the models is pretty low after the 6th but Arpege showing scattered but not inconsequential snow showers through the early hours of Sunday for much of the country, doesn't seem to know what to make of Monday.

BBC forecast for here keeps going on and off again every 2-3 hours or so for the 7th to 11th and can't seem to decide what is going to happen.
 
Bbc changed again for Southampton, they can't make their mind up on which guess they going with.

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After BBC ditched Met Office for Metro Group, I have a lot more faith looking out of my window!

I go with Met Office for forecast up to ~3 days ahead and the Weather Underground app for on the day.

Met Office thinks we have a 50% chance of a few flakes in Southampton on Sunday morning.
 
Looking like we are in for a wintery week, with rain turning to snow on Saturday evening and then the cold and snow staying to Thursday or Friday at least
 
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