Winter 2022/23 - It's too cold :(

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GaryTheSnail said:
I was over my local lakes today and I stood on a layer, it was pretty thick today over an inch of ice. I moved about 2 foot away from the spot a bit closer and my leg went through. I was testing how thick it was. It was in the edge and I had a pair of waders on so it would have only got up to my chest area if I fell through as it wasn't deep enough to cause me troubles.

It was MUCH thinner a few days ago! How far were these kids out I don't know BUT I did see foot prints about 5 meters away from the edge where someone else previous to me TRIED to go further. Ice is dangerous. Maybe we need a UK project for signs up in winter, one of the problems is they get vandalised in a lot of areas so it's all up to the kids to make a decision to keep off the lake in these conditions.

Very sad that it comes to death when playing on ice that's thin enough to fall trough but what can you do.
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People were skating on our local lake and of course people defending them, ‘it’s really shallow’. At that temperature even just a ft or so of water will take you down. Kids will be kids and unfortunately only the parents could intervene here, but I feel most sorry for the emergency services who have to deal with this kind of stupidity. One can’t even imagine pulling a child out of that water.
 
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GaryTheSnail said:
I was over my local lakes today and I stood on a layer, it was pretty thick today over an inch of ice. I moved about 2 foot away from the spot a bit closer and my leg went through. I was testing how thick it was. It was in the edge and I had a pair of waders on so it would have only got up to my chest area if I fell through as it wasn't deep enough to cause me troubles.

It was MUCH thinner a few days ago! How far were these kids out I don't know BUT I did see foot prints about 5 meters away from the edge where someone else previous to me TRIED to go further. Ice is dangerous. Maybe we need a UK project for signs up in winter, one of the problems is they get vandalised in a lot of areas so it's all up to the kids to make a decision to keep off the lake in these conditions.

Very sad that it comes to death when playing on ice that's thin enough to fall trough but what can you do.
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So let me get this straight GTS, you have just learnt 4 kids died from messing around on ice, so you, as a grown man, decided to try and walk on ice?
 
dLockers said:
So let me get this straight GTS, you have just learnt 4 kids died from messing around on ice, so you, as a grown man, decided to try and walk on ice?
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You don't need to worry about me, I'm very very aware of the lakeside depths, what's under the water at certain places e.t.c. When I say I walked on ice it was 1mter out from the fishing pegs. Don't fret like I said I had waders on and the depth is only 2 foot with no current.

I certainly wasn't messing around, I had a depth stick with me with waders on.
 
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Jokester said:
Freezing cold water will get you into hypothermia in a matter of minutes.
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And for those not used to it will paralyse them instantly.

GaryTheSnail said:
Temperature of the water, near by objects, current health conditions, thinness of the ice.
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Clothes too. Fell into a pond as a kid and got pulled down by my wellies. Luckily it was shallow enough that I could keep my head above water and clamber into the shallower bit to drag myself out. Luckily it was also one summers evening, so the water wasn’t too cold.
 
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CaptainRAVE said:
Clothes too. Fell into a pond as a kid and got pulled down by my wellies. Luckily it was shallow enough that I could keep my head above water and clamber into the shallower bit to drag myself out. Luckily it was also one summers evening, so the water wasn’t too cold.
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Try over flowing in a pair of waders. :cry: You feel like a pretty little dolphin.

Also - under the ice if there's sludge/mud in the water you will also struggle to pull your feet out the compound. I was doing a netting of a fishery in Feb this year with 2 foot of sludge and pulling yourself out of that while been in water is like quick sand. You go down and down until you can't pull yourself out any longer.

Some lakes have a sludge bottom. You fall in you not getting out.
 
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GaryTheSnail said:
You don't need to worry about me, I'm very very aware of the lakeside depths, what's under the water at certain places e.t.c. When I say I walked on ice it was 1mter out from the fishing pegs. Don't fret like I said I had waders on and the depth is only 2 foot with no current.

I certainly wasn't messing around, I had a depth stick with me with waders on.
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Walking on ice in waders with a depth stick sounds a lot like messing around. :p
 
Going by tonight's data and predictions for the NAO - could get strengthening pulses of cold intrusions interspersed by short returns to much milder weather over the next few weeks/months.
 
Rroff said:
Was saying at work yesterday even as kids I think pretty much everyone I went to school with knew better - at best we'd only play on ice over shallow (like a few inches) water.
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Its always happened though, it's a tragedy but I can guarantee every cold snap since time began somebody has died falling through ice.
 
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Rroff said:
Going by tonight's data and predictions for the NAO - could get strengthening pulses of cold intrusions interspersed by short returns to much milder weather over the next few weeks/months.
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And in English please. Are we getting loads of snow on the south coast or not?
 
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