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Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

Discussion in 'Music, Box Office, TV & Books' started by Hostile_18, Aug 3, 2009.

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Who will rule Westeros?

Poll closed May 18, 2019.
  1. Daenerys Targaryen

    6.8%
  2. Jon Snow / Aegon Targaryen

    30.8%
  3. Sansa Stark

    13.8%
  4. Arya Stark

    8.1%
  5. Bran Stark

    2.1%
  6. Sam Tarley

    3.0%
  7. Tyrion Lannister

    9.8%
  8. Jamie Lannister

    0.8%
  9. Cersei Lannister

    2.1%
  10. Gendry

    10.8%
  11. Brienne of Tarth

    1.3%
  12. The Night King

    4.9%
  13. Other (please specify)

    5.7%
  1. ChroniC

    Sgarrista

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 8,954

    Yeah I just felt the whole thing seemed like it all should be connected but isn't. Why train Arya for no reason other than to extended her story, Why have this god bring back Jon for no reason whilst giving others magical abilities, unless it all becomes useful in the end. Why give Bran time travel / warg ability to just be bait etc. I hope I'm wrong and that this all gets used to some extent in the next few episode.
     
  2. EVH

    Don

    Joined: Mar 11, 2004

    Posts: 26,514

    I decided against it for anyone that accidentally clicks the thread. It might seem trivial but some people aren’t fully up to speed and it’s a pretty big reveal... plus it doesn’t really matter as we all know who voters meant to pick :p
     
  3. uvarvu

    Mobster

    Joined: Apr 29, 2004

    Posts: 3,855

    Location: Bath

    Any chance of an other/no-one option in the poll?
     
  4. EVH

    Don

    Joined: Mar 11, 2004

    Posts: 26,514

    Done
     
  5. Egon

    Soldato

    Joined: Jan 9, 2003

    Posts: 6,744

    Location: Darlington

    Went for other, don't think there will be an overall ruler
     
  6. Andrew_McP

    Mobster

    Joined: Apr 21, 2003

    Posts: 2,501

    Location: South North West

    Well, to be fair, she does come back as a pretty impressive ninja, which is handy for a bit of Starky retribution. I don't have any problem with that, story arc-wise. I think it would have been even better with less of the 'magic faces' stuff, but that's just me struggling with convenient magic; I like a bit of order to my fantasy science, and not many fantasy writers satisfy me there.

    When I first started the books it took me a few attempts to get past the first chapters. I mean, zombies? Really? And even when I got a foothold, realising Martin writes absolutely superb characters, I was never convinced by his magic... it's a mess all the way through the books with no obvious consistency and a bit too much "I need a plot device to do X". But I didn't care before long, because no writer's perfect and the narrative dragged me through the rough patches.

    I think the TV show writers (including music writer) and actors, on the whole, have done a good job of overcoming the raw material's limitations, and I see Martin as a 'birds of paradise' magic writer now. It's hard to see how birds of paradise evolved to be so weird and spectacular and his magic system did something similar, with pockets of limited but mind boggling capability; dragons here, flammable swords there, smoke babies as required, etc, etc... none of it fits together, it's just generic fantasy Magic, which is usually what puts folk off the genre.

    But the real magic is in Martin's characters and their societies. My favourite idea in the whole series may be the whole 'iron price/gold price' thing which captures the whole of Iron Island culture in one pithy phrase. And the magic of making us feel sorry for Cersei on her walk of shame, or Jaime when he loses his hand. I could forgive Martin anything!

    However the biggest limitation of all, for me, was always the zombie threat from the North. It's the least interesting and yet most important plot element, but that doesn't mean the characters I love can't still be impressive while dealing with it. Just requires a large pinch of suspension of disbelief... and a lot of CGi, which always helps.

    I need to eat a few carrots before Monday morning though... I'm over 50 and my rods are shot, so all this dark stuff's a bit of a strain on my TV and eyes. Maybe someone can arrange a magical full moon for us... though come to think of it, I don't remember seeing a moon, or tides. At least there's the fire trench around Winterfell to illuminate things, and some dragon pyrotechnics.

    Mmm... I may be overthinking all this. But it's one way of dealing with potential pre-disappointment nerves. :)
     
  7. Destination

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 31, 2009

    Posts: 19,038

    Agree, I think it'll be seven kingdoms again.
     
  8. Destination

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 31, 2009

    Posts: 19,038

    Yes underground, where we bury our dead warriors, best place, safest place.
    After all the north remembers, but might be a bit dumb.
     
  9. robfosters

    Caporegime

    Joined: Dec 1, 2010

    Posts: 29,004

    Location: Welling, London

    What’s Hot Pie up to these days.
     
  10. xtal191

    Gangster

    Joined: Jul 14, 2009

    Posts: 173

    Its never gonna happen but I hope The Night King wins
     
  11. Destination

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 31, 2009

    Posts: 19,038

    Still think Arya will return to the faceless men and hang up her own face after announcing she is no one.
     
  12. BongoHunter

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Apr 14, 2014

    Posts: 1,315

    I don't think NK is going to Kings Landing

    In the map table room with the rest of the main characters Sam and Bran talked about what the Night King wanted, and talked about him wanting to erase the world's memory, so with that in mind I think the NK is off to old town to destroy the Citadel
     
  13. Minusorange

    Mobster

    Joined: Nov 25, 2005

    Posts: 3,793

  14. ianh

    Mobster

    Joined: Jul 12, 2007

    Posts: 4,324

    Location: THE MOON!!!!!

    This'll never happen but I think it'd be a cool ending -

    After losing to the Night King at Winterfell and taking massive loses everyone left retreats to Kings Landing where they loses again, forcing the few survivors to have a "Dunkirk" style evacuation of Westeros. As the last ships sail away with the Night King on the beach watching them sail away they talk about, as the Night Kings army can't travel across water, how much time they have to rebuild an army to take back Westeros when the Night King kneels at the shoreline, places a hand in the sea and it slowly starts freezing over and a few wightes start walking on the now freezing sea...................fade to black......................So I like that idea, where the NK wins but it'd never be done :D
     
  15. Midlife Crisis

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Aug 1, 2009

    Posts: 1,476

    I think the sea freezing will happen, but in a way that unites all sides in a last ditch battle with the NK
     
  16. Tombstone

    Capodecina

    Joined: Aug 17, 2007

    Posts: 17,166

    Mind you, if he could freeze the sea then he wouldnt have needed a dragon to get through the wall, he could have simply frozen the sea at the end of the wall and walked around it
     
  17. ianh

    Mobster

    Joined: Jul 12, 2007

    Posts: 4,324

    Location: THE MOON!!!!!

    He's never "needed" to freeze the sea before on his way South to the wall, and when he finally reached it he had a dragon which could destroy it anyway, saving him the bother of freezing the sea and walking around it. So potentially it could be an unused Deus Ex Machina in that final shot of my completely imaginary ending :D
     
  18. Kainz

    Capodecina

    Joined: Dec 15, 2002

    Posts: 21,325

    Location: In a cowfield, London, Uk

    Yarp.
     
  19. Mark A

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 19, 2005

    Posts: 17,552

    Location: Lancashire

    I was thinking it might come down to Jon and Dany at the end and he would say again that the North won't be ruled and she then tells her dragons to burn him, but instead they take his side. Probably too obvious an ending though.
     
  20. DampDog

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 19, 2010

    Posts: 2,194

    Location: North Staffs

    I was thinking along the same lines. That come the end of he battle Jon and Daenerys might end up at odds over the north and south. I doubt Danny would order a dragon to kill Jon but perhaps in the ensuing argument the dragon that already looks a little jealous and protective might attack Jon. Then there could be a "oh look he's a fireproof Targaryen too," which would rubber stamp his claim to the throne. Once on the throne he could split the lands and make her queen of the south at his side. In truth I'm clueless as to how the ending may go, which is a credit to the writers. So far there have been no disappointments with the final season.

    Is this next episode nigh on 90mins long?