That is not true...many organisations are deemed terrorists or not by the US and are not or are by other countries, including the Taliban and its affiliates.
As for ISAF, your opinion seems to be clouding your objectivity. Simply because some afghans feel this way is not indicative that they all do.
Considering this is a US led war and it’s their terrorist list we are playing by. Do you not agree the US opinion regarding terrorist in that region is not one that can be considered fair or representative given how they change that list depending on their foreign policy at the time? One including the the status of the Taliban themselves.
Why ignore them Afghans and only listen to the ones who say what we want to hear? Surely if you want Afghanistan to move forward we need to see the views of them objectively?
Again I don't agree that it is an occupation, and that doesn't alter what I stated about the training camps themselves either.
As for atrocities, perhaps they should look to those they are bedfellows with, as the majority of civilian deaths in Afghanistan are directly attributable to the Taliban and their supporters.
What is it then if not an occupation of 13 years?
It seems you are unwilling to acknowledge many Afghans have a legitimate cause of freeing themselves of western forces because it somehow undermines the legitimacy of the campaign? Can you not see why they may wish to do this?
No one is denying that a large portion of civilian deaths are attributed to the Taliban and their supporters but that doesn’t take away or change the fact of the many atrocities committed by western forces. Because the Taliban does bad, doesn’t somehow make disappear the actions of the western forces or
change the feelings of the locals. Is it wrong to want to be free of military presence of outsiders?
Many submit that the govt is indeed legitimate, and if the Afghans feel differently then they can vote for someone else or protest without resorting to killing civilians.
They did vote for someone else the last time but it is felt the US needed someone who they could work with whilst stationed in the country. It was widely reported regarding the mass corruption in the last elections. Not to mention CIA money being paid in the hundreds of millions to Afghani officials (also reported) The corruption has been highly documented by all reputable agencies, running from the top to low level police commanders. Accused escape jailtime for all sorts of crimes including rape/murder and in cases return to positions of power.
E.U. election monitors characterize 1.5 million votes as suspect, which would include up to one-third of the votes cast for incumbent President Hamid Karzai. Once fraud occurs on the scale of what took place in Afghanistan, it is impossible to untangle.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1929210,00.html
So the Govt is corrupt, so was the Taliban. Except with the Taliban if you questioned or spoke out about it, you died.
Two wrongs dont make a right? The ordinary Aghans are stuck between a rock and a hard place. It doesnt take much imagination where this leads to. Maybe they want rid of all, corrupt western backed government, taliban and western forces. Do they not have the right to fight for thier freedom?
It isn't quite as simple as you imply either, the Karzai presidency was a result of the opposition stepping out of the race after it was agreed to have a run off.....when you are the only contender, you win. Also his unpopularity is also more compex than you suggest, it is not generally related to the ISAF, but to his own mistakes and inability to give the Afghans what they expected after the fall of the Taliban, this included the resurgence of the Taliban themselves as well as civilian casualties opponents laid at the feet of the ISAF, but in many cases were the result of terrorism.
It simply it not as straight forward as you think.
Of course it not as simple as that. He is unpopular and is corrupt, just look at his brother and what he does. The problem is corruption all the way to the top, documented. The elections was marred with vote rigging and pressure was applied for the opposition to step down.
Not really they haven't. In any case have you been to find out if they have changed? Or are you relying on third party opinion?
Relying on reputable sources including BBC journalists, local Afghans, occupying soldiers and not just from the one documentary.
