Woolwich serious incident

Janesy B said:
In hindsight, asking a known extremist to pray for a victim of an attack similar to what he was planning was a bit silly. Why this scumbag wasn't in solitary I will never understand. Prisons are just massive criminal and extremist recruitment/training centres and it needs to stop.
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I agree, that's why point 1 of my five point plan is to separate Muslim extremist prisoners from the rest of the prison population.
 
[TW]Fox;24351477 said:
If it didn't get 'any media what so ever' then you'd not be able to link us to a newspaper article about it :confused:
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Yes it did get a article or two on certain newspapers. But it didnt really hit headline news now did it?

White man killing a Muslim/Asian person... says it all. If thats not a Racist attack then what is?
When a Muslim person gets attacked/Killed the whole media decides not to do any coverage. May get an article in the local newspapers but it wont hit BBC or Skys headline news now will it?

But when someone is related to a "Muslim" or "Brown Asian" commits a crime then it becomes headline news. Automatically becomes a racist, extremist etc.
Media's will pump it up as much as they can so they can brain wash all the white people that every non white people living in this country are racist extremist etc...


So many muslim people get attacked on a daily basis, but not a snippet from media.

Double standards alright :rolleyes:
 
jsmoke said:
I think we need an ADX Florence Supermax type of prison.
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To what end? The American prison system is not one that I'd be overly keen on emulating unless there's a very good reason.

Sho said:
Yes it did get a article or two on certain newspapers. But it didnt really hit headline news now did it?

White man killing a Muslim/Asian person... says it all. If thats not a Racist attack then what is?
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It might just be an attack without any racist overtones. That doesn't make it better but just because the skin colour of those involved is different doesn't make it a racist attack - the judgement is made on the motivation rather than the outcome.

I don't know the details about this particular incident, it might have been racially motivated but that doesn't imply that all incidents which involve people of different skin colours will be racially motivated.

Sho said:
When a Muslim person gets attacked/Killed the whole media decides not to do any coverage. May get an article in the local newspapers but it wont hit BBC or Skys headline news now will it?

But when someone is related to a "Muslim" or "Brown Asian" commits a crime then it becomes headline news. Automatically becomes a racist, extremist etc.
Media's will pump it up as much as they can so they can brain wash all the white people that every non white people living in this country are racist extremist etc...


So many muslim people get attacked on a daily basis, but not a snippet from media.

Double standards alright :rolleyes:
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While it would be great if there were so few murders that any and all became headline news all over it's simply not possible, they tend to only get mass media coverage when the crime is particularly noteworthy (brutal, strange or otherwise out of the ordinary). Sadly a man getting stabbed is not, in and of itself, unusual enough to merit comment on a national scale.

//edit although I do appreciate that from your viewpoint every crime by a "Brown Asian" is labelled racist - I particularly like the juxtaposition that many people from a diametrically opposed viewpoint to yours hold that it's only "white" people that can be found to be racist. You can't both be right and in fact I'd argue we're in the fun situation where both opposing sides are wrong and the simple truth is that anyone can be racist against others. Whether it gets correctly recognised all the time when incidents are racially motivated is perhaps a different issue.
 
Sho said:
Yes it did get a article or two on certain newspapers. But it didnt really hit headline news now did it?

White man killing a Muslim/Asian person... says it all. If thats not a Racist attack then what is?
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But even the Police acknowledge it may have been racially motivated :confused:
 
UncleRuckus said:
Crazy, we've been over this Neo-Nazis want nothing to do with pro Zionist organisations.
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lol, you assume brain-dead right-wing racist idiots apply any sort of logic :confused:
EDL and BNP are full of right-wing neo-nazi scum-bags, if you don't understand this then you're as foolish as the average EDL member.

Here have some video evidence from an EDL hate march yesterday:

 
Sho said:
White man killing a Muslim/Asian person... says it all. If thats not a Racist attack then what is?
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A racist attack is an attack that is racially motivated. If some white guy punches you because you're black, that'd make them a racist. If he punches you because you slept with his wife, and you also just happen to be black, then it's not a racist attack.

With regards to the EDL, they're a horrible symptom of immigrants who haven't made an attempt to integrate with British society. Since we aren't doing anything about the latter, the former is only going to get worse.
 
ikillbears said:
it's not actually his point. it comes from the leader chap of the EDL. He then doesn't mention what his other 4 are, so maybe scorza can enlighten us
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Actually MPs have asked questions in parliament to the effect of suggesting separation for Muslim extremist prisoners. As for my other 4 points, they're in this thread - don't have time to search for them.
 
Between the lapdog media, goverment airheads and some dodgy blogs and forum posts I have to ask how many people have actually met and spoken with anyone that is muslim???

I only ask this as in my entire life i have never had a single problem with anyone of that faith. In fact on average they have been more pleasant to get along with than the local white guys of my own town. Which makes me wonder how much of all this anti muslim stuff is made up just to demonize their community.

I am not saying there aren't any extremists out there, we have plenty of our own, like the scummy EDL. But i do think the whole thing is blown way out of proportion.
 
DisrupTor75 said:
Between the lapdog media, goverment airheads and some dodgy blogs and forum posts I have to ask how many people have actually met and spoken with anyone that is muslim???

I only ask this as in my entire life i have never had a single problem with anyone of that faith. In fact on average they have been more pleasant to get along with than the local white guys of my own town. Which makes me wonder how much of all this anti muslim stuff is made up just to demonize their community.

I am not saying there aren't any extremists out there, we have plenty of our own, like the scummy EDL. But i do think the whole thing is blown way out of proportion.
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it is a known fact that Media uses language that is anti-islamic as have been said several times. I am not sure why though? is it because they want to sell more copies or just hate islam?

There was a debate around an year ago around the whole "media hacking thing". An ex-journalist said he got fed up when the newspaper he worked for seemed to be using anti-islamic language all the time.
 
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