Woolwich serious incident

So something is growing (if it is?) so we must stop it? What if it was another religion that was growing. Are "indigenous" religions okay?

Are we then back to the Islam is evil argument?

Groen at least appears to be against the public presence of all religions.



I can't understand why the police didn't shut that down. No chance of that running for too long in London.

Because we have a growing number of people in the country who want to overthrow our rights and insert an Islamic state on us?

No one cares aboutChristians or catholics as those religions are dieing out in our society.d
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/27/york-mosque-protest-tea-biscuits

This is certainly nice to see -

Who would have thought that a bitta' tea, biscuits and some good old footy could bring together EDL members and the York Mosque members!

I think that it would be much more productive if the UK Muslim community and the EDL actually co-operated and worked together in this fight against radicalism & extremism. A man can dream eh?

That's a brilliant story :)

While I'm sure there are some in the EDL simply opposed to extremism (presumably those in the above story were in that category) there are unfortunately many others who are simply trouble makers, low IQ types who are easily lead/join in because their mates are or are outright racists with darker agendas.

It would be nice if people were able to legitimately protest against extremism but unfortunately such protests will inevitable be hijacked by the far right.
 
'Anonymous' have had enough and have now declared war on the EDL!
Looking forward to see what they have planned for them and hopefully releasing some dirt that confirms what non racists suspect of them.

Here's the official statement:


Good morning members, and leaders of the English Defense League.

We are Anonymous UK. We have been patiently observing your organisation, as you have inflated, indoctrinating our young with your criminal mindset.

You have capitalized on the misfortunes of our peoples, taking advantage of moments of fear, of terror, and of reconciliation, to spread hatred and animosity towards your fellow man.

Your constant belligerence, like a pack of raving ignoramuses, furthering only bigotry and segregation.

You have angered us considerably, and summoned our wrath irrevocably.

Last week, an innocent Drummer, Lee Rigby, lost his life at the hands of two vile and demented human beings in the most horrific, and heinous manner ever witnessed on the streets of Britain.

This villainous public display has thrown the United Kingdom into mourning; every community, and every congregation, extending their deepest condolences.

You however, have used this as another excuse to further spread your campaign of hate, bigotry, and misinformation. Under the guise of national pride you have instigated crimes against the innocent and incited the subjugation of Muslims. We will not allow your injustices, your lies, and your stupidity, to further radicalize our youth into fearing and despising their fellow man.

Our people are desperate for hope, in a hopeless society where our own government neglects us, where society has fails us, it is only natural to seek a relatable change maker. This sort of desperation, this quest for feeling of worth, is what you have taken advantage of.

In this operation, we will begin the systematic and comprehensive dissemination of your cult. We will further expose your falsities and your attempts to censor, to your members, to the British public, and to the world as a whole. You will fall, we can say this with complete confidence. We are everywhere, you cannot hide, you cannot win We are the voices of all and the voice of one. It will not happen over night, but we WILL be victorious.

We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us.
 
If someone went to Saudi and started cursing the country etc i wonder what would happen to them. Would they get a nice big house to live in? A nice wedge of money to live off of? Full health care benefits? A top of the range hook as a replacement for a lost hand?

Great Britain aint great anymore!
 
Anyone can be anonymous you do realize that right? that is what anonymous means. "official" statement, how official can you get coming from anonymous? if they didnt have the V face youtube video with computer voice, then its not official imo. lol

I could write something and post it on pastebin with a similar signature and then go to their irc chan and post it there and pretend that i have everyone with me. Not that difficult. Even the syrian army or mi6 could do it.
 
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Hate to discuss numbers here, but the way this whole incident is being dealt with, makes it seem like people are being killed in droves by these religious nuts and our civilisation is on the brink of collapse. How many people have exactly died from terrorism? What percentage of the muslim population do these extremist nutcases represent?

Seriously, people need to get a grip on reality. I honestly can't wait till humanity has to face an actual threat, something like a meteor impact, super bug/virus, solar flare, sudden climate change, alien invasion, etc. We will then realise how lucky we are to be alive.
 
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Hate to discuss numbers here, but the way this whole incident is being dealt with, makes it seem like people are being killed in droves by these religious nuts and our civilisation is on the brink of collapse. How many people have exactly died from terrorism? What percentage of the muslim population do these extremist nutcases represent?

Seriously, people need to get a grip on reality. I honestly can't wait till humanity has to face an actual threat, something like a meteor impact, super bug/virus, solar flare, sudden climate change, alien invasion, etc. We will then realise how lucky we are to be alive.

They represent enough to make themselves the government in Afghanistan until it was invaded. They ran the entire nation.
Take Iran, since their Islamic revolution they have dictated the state, and still control it. Despite the wishes or aspirations of their peoples.
People do need to get a grip. Hitler started somewhere and he didn't have religious fervour as his ally. Its less likely to happen now, but force enough people under the cosh of any religious oppression and it can be hundreds of years until they throw off the yoke. Communism took its time to depart, and even now certain states still operate in such fashion.
 
Seriously, people need to get a grip on reality. I honestly can't wait till humanity has to face an actual threat, something like a meteor impact, super bug/virus, solar flare, sudden climate change, alien invasion, etc. We will then realise how lucky we are to be alive.

You mean like the World Trade Center? people cared for a while then it went back to the same old ways. But not for those who were greatly affected that rescued people, the rescuers as they risked their lives, lost others and their loved ones.
 
Hate to discuss numbers here, but the way this whole incident is being dealt with, makes it seem like people are being killed in droves by these religious nuts and our civilisation is on the brink of collapse. How many people have exactly died from terrorism? What percentage of the muslim population do these extremist nutcases represent?

Seriously, people need to get a grip on reality. I honestly can't wait till humanity has to face an actual threat, something like a meteor impact, super bug/virus, solar flare, sudden climate change, alien invasion, etc. We will then realise how lucky we are to be alive.

What an incredibly strange thing to say. I'm sure those grieving familes appreciate your sentiments.
 
They represent enough to make themselves the government in Afghanistan until it was invaded. They ran the entire nation.
Take Iran, since their Islamic revolution they have dictated the state, and still control it. Despite the wishes or aspirations of their peoples.
People do need to get a grip. Hitler started somewhere and he didn't have religious fervour as his ally. Its less likely to happen now, but force enough people under the cosh of any religious oppression and it can be hundreds of years until they throw off the yoke. Communism took its time to depart, and even now certain states still operate in such fashion.

that's because they were the natives of them countries you mention. not the same here is it where Muslims comprise less then 5% of the population.
 
What an incredibly strange thing to say. I'm sure those grieving familes appreciate your sentiments.

Who in their right mind would want a meteor to hit the earth, or a virus epidemic. Or people burning alive with no ozone layer. Nearly all of that is someone watching too much Hollywood. Except climate change which is an excuse to abuse tax hikes. It's been changing since the earth began.
 
Except climate change which is an excuse to abuse tax hikes. It's been changing since the earth began.

Climate change is usually shorthand of anthropogenic climate change. Yes, the climate has been changing since Earth began but nowhere near as fast as it is today and not by our intervention.

Anthropogenic climate change is killing and will kill more people than Islamic terrorists ever will. There's a strong scientific consensus on that.
 
'Anonymous' have had enough and have now declared war on the EDL!
Looking forward to see what they have planned for them and hopefully releasing some dirt that confirms what non racists suspect of them.

Here's the official statement:

So ANON have the balls to go after the EDL but not the islamic fanatics?

Oh how brave you are!

We are everywhere, you cannot hide, you cannot win We are the voices of all and the voice of one. It will not happen over night, but we WILL be victorious.

It seems nor can you! ah ah

Didn't some of anon get banged up for hacking?
 
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so what are you all basing your understanding of their policies etc what you read in the media or tv? Please tell me you have your own free will?

i have no understanding of their policies from reading or watching TV.

I have my own free will.

I have no real Understanding of Conservative, Labour or Liberal democrat policies either.

Any further questions ?
 
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