Woolwich serious incident

The amount of people acting like the only time a murder or crime takes place is when the person is a dirty foreigner is ****ing ridiculous in here.

What on earth...?

Isn't that the same so and so who is banned from FS for his crap posted about hillsborough
 
Yes you are - you are giving reasons citing double standards and spending more time on here doing so in one day forwarding that argument than you have spent tackling radicalism in your whole life.

Speaks volumes.

What speaks volumes is you thinking i actually do need to because we share a similar “hobby” :confused:

You go tackle radicalism; I’ve got stuff to do in my life than trying to mend society.

I'm not giving reasons, pointing out obvious comparisons and people’s reactions.
 
how many times did i say this in the past.

Those Wehabbi / Selefi Muslims are ****ing cancer. the attackers of Woolwich are from this sect.

yet the British and westerns govs support them fully, example: Freedom Army of Syria, Saudi Arabia..etc the list goes on.

if you really that serious about the future of England / THE UK. then start act now and change the ****ing gov way of supporting those evil cancer sect.

Yes, this. It would be like arming the Westboro Baptist church.
 
Yes you are - you are giving reasons citing double standards and spending more time on here doing so in one day forwarding that argument than you have spent tackling radicalism in your whole life.

Speaks volumes.

He's not justifying them, he's drawing parallels, and I refer you back to my Frankie Boyle scenario.
 
I'm still trying to trace a name of one of the suspects , I have heard from people that one of the suspects came from my school and was in my year , looking at a year book photo there is a guy that looks just like one of the suspects!
 
The issues surrounding the whole situation are just massively complex. It takes too much time to understand and unfortunately the media don’t really like complication, they want a quick summary of events then move on to the next thing. I mean it’s so unclear what is actually going on. Yesterday morning William Hague was in a meeting actively calling to lift the ban on arming the Syrian rebels . These Al-Nusra rebels only a few days ago were shown on YouTube cutting out the heart of a Syrian soldier and eating it….then in the afternoon extremists supporting the same cause make a similar attack in a London street on one of our soldiers.

I mean where do you even start with the paradox of that….
 
Anyhow got to go.

RIP to the poor fella, absolutely horrific what he must have gone through. Thoughts with the family.

Justice will be served to these two monsters, and they can reflect on what they have done behind bars for the rest of their lives.
 
A difference exists between understanding the causal factors which led to this incident & excusing/permitting the behaviour as justifiable.

An array of factors could have led to this event.

1. Extreme religious indoctrination (concept of Jihad being one element/martyrdom)
2. Our foreign policy abroad & the actions of the west in the middle east.
3. A lack of empathy.
4. Mental illness (which it's expression took the above as it's form).

The reasoning behind the target selection (which from the sounds of it wasn't done perfectly, but that could be due to incompetence or stupidity) does appear to be politically motivated (albeit careless & capable of killing people even they don't think should be involved) - not that it excuses it (for them, or when the west has killed people abroad for it's own 'reasons')

The lack of empathy & extremist ideology (coupled with the concept of martyrdom) would have in part at least some of the reason behind the chosen method (I would assume).

Just hating the west doesn't cause this behaviour, neither does disagreeing with our foreign policy abroad or strongly opposing our actions which result in civilian causalities globally.

I don't support our activity abroad, but neither do I support this kind of barbarism in response either - both are wrong, both result in the deaths of fellow human beings & both happen for a reason (not a good one either).

Let's not be as silly to write off behaviour as "evil" & close the book on the matter.

Well thought out post that.

However, you say that "just hating the west doesn't cause this behaviour" surely depends on a combination of Extreme religious indoctrination/Our foreign policy abroad and lack of empathy. The four reasons you gave are not mutually exclusive.
 
A difference exists between understanding the causal factors which led to this incident & excusing/permitting the behaviour as justifiable.

An array of factors could have led to this event.

1. Extreme religious indoctrination (concept of Jihad being one element/martyrdom)
2. Our foreign policy abroad & the actions of the west in the middle east.
3. A lack of empathy.
4. Mental illness (which it's expression took the above as it's form).

How about 5. Islam doesn't condemn these types of actions enough and more so they praise it. How do people get radicalized anyways? ...
 
Well thought out post that.

However, you say that "just hating the west doesn't cause this behaviour" surely depends on lack of empathy. The four reasons you gave are not mutually exclusive.

I imagine that's the point? That, without other underlying issues such as a lack of empathy or significant radicalisation, these people could not have done what they did.
 
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