World Cup 2010 - Round of 16 (Knock-out stage) **spoilers**
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Its as simple as this, to be a WORLD CLASS PLAYER you have to perform to a WORLD CLASS LEVEL in the WORLD CUP
He didn't, so he's not world class
Facepalm.
So tell me this, which sides are better Germany/Slovenia/Algeri and the USA or Chelsea,Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter, AC milan and Bayern?
He already plays well against teams fra higher level than international football and he performs. The international stage is a step down which might explain why so many of the Italys, France, Germany, Spain and now England have struggled so much.
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No because he has not been judged against the worlds best
Yeah and 79.5% of statistics are made up
If this were true then 90% of this forum are either stupid or stupidly fickle. Wayne Rooney has been terrible at THIS competition but so has every other England player except James.
If you have forgotten about Rooney's calibre defining moments then perhaps you need to go rewatch videos of his career starting from him as a 16 year old putting the unbeatable Arsenal to the sword.
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Well, yeah, he has. In the qualifiers. And didn't make the cut.
Exactly.
As about 5 people have said now Locky, stop trolling. If you're not trolling go participate in another sub-forum because you clearly have no idea about football.
But how many chances is he going to get, to show people that world class quality that people go on about?
To be honest Rooney is a great player, he has demonstrated this numerous times. This World Cup was not one of them though, he has not performed at all. Fair enough, he may not have had great service but when he has had something, he's totally wasted it, given it away etc.
He was someone that could have carried England but his performances just weren't there, I don't see how anyone can honestly say with a straight face that he has been anything other than poor to average at this cup. Just as with most of the rest of the team, poor to average at best.
He was someone that could have carried England but his performances just weren't there, I don't see how anyone can honestly say with a straight face that he has been anything other than poor to average at this cup. Just as with most of the rest of the team, poor to average at best.
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Get rid of all the squad the manager as well and pick Div 1 players at least they can pass the ball and give 100% I am sick off hearing Rooney can do this Rooney can do that. The truth is Rooney cannot and did not score in this world cup against 3 very poor teams that says it all.
So if Argentina failed to qualify, by your reckoning Messi isn't world class? Hmm..
It's not necessarily Arshavin's fault that Russia didn't qualify, but he's certainly their best player, hence why I singled him out.
Doesn't just have to be in the World Cup. Players play immensely vs Real Madrid, Barcelona etc and they're better as a team than a vast majority of the countries.
Has Messi played as well for Argentina as he has for Barca?
It's very rare that you see a player replicate their club form at International level these days.
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Don't insult my opinion with your petty facepalms
All of that is completely irrelevant, the world cup is the ultimate stage where the best players produce quality which is the ultimate judge as to wether or not these players are "the best in the world", why? because it is where the worlds greatest players play
If you need a team to CARRY YOU to be a world class player how on earth can you be a world class PLAYER
Facepalm yourself
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For me you can't say Rooney isn't world class, he's scored bags of goals in arguably the best league in the world and the champions league he's a quality player.
BUT he has been absolutely woeful in this tournament the big question is why?? Fitness? Can't play in the system? Personal problems? Tbh none of us know.
BUT he has been absolutely woeful in this tournament the big question is why?? Fitness? Can't play in the system? Personal problems? Tbh none of us know.
It was a one-dayer in fairness. Although International cricketers are on pretty good money, obviously not footballer sums, pretty still sitting pretty happy.
There are so many players that fail at the odd World Cup. Just because it was Rooney's turn (with a **** team too) he's not world class? Come off it.
Haven't been able to bring myself to make a post, but the self-opinionated, biased and just dam right clueless posts by some people are making it extremely hard.
First off, I am really struggling right now, as I am trying to create some excuse to cover up for that abismal performance, and I just can't.
I'm trying to persuade myself that if the lampard GOAL was given, it would have made a difference, but it really wouldn't have.
As aforementioned, performances in all three quarters were just shockingly poor, the defence were caught out of position far too often, and sometimes hanging around attacking positions when the germans were breaking on a counter. The midfield, filled with big name, out of position, players who appeared lifeless for the majority of the game, why on earth capello insists on playing them in bizzare positions when they have proved themselves time and time again in other positions, e.g. Gerrard. Then finally the attackers, as much as I would like to blame them as they obviously should be the one's scoring goals, the service provided was completely ludicrous, people severely battering rooney with ridiculous comments need to realize that the service towards him has been shocking, the majority of the time, he's had to drop deep just to get a hold of the ball, were he then made a few clever runs at the german defence, to them find absolutely nobody to give the ball to.
Regarding Cappello; A friend told me that Crouch has the highest goals scored this world cup, qualifiers inc. I'm not sure whether that's correct, but regardless, how this guy wasn't even given a chance to shine whatsoever, and beaten FOUR times, to the lineup by <insert accurate description>, HESKEY, is completely mind boggling. I believe the defence would have been a lot better with Ferdinand, but we still have more options than Terry and Upson. The stubborn nature of Cappello, sticking with the same lineup & formation continuously is worthy of the sack alone. I do also think we missed Beckham's ability to play wonderful balls across the field.
In conclusion, the blame for our failure has to be shared amongst the many contributing factors; the media, as usual over-hyping the players and placing unnecessary pressure amongst them, the manager for some absolutely terrible decisions, obviously the players, who look as passionate as a damp old sock, who honestly didn't look all that bothered at the final whistle, that they had just let the millions at home down and crashed out of the world cup at the hands of their biggest international rivals and we also need to blame ourselves, for expecting too much and just being left dissapointed.
Comments like this are just ludicrous though, there's plenty more across the thread, this the closest however.
Please excuse the long post, I've been holding it in
First off, I am really struggling right now, as I am trying to create some excuse to cover up for that abismal performance, and I just can't.
I'm trying to persuade myself that if the lampard GOAL was given, it would have made a difference, but it really wouldn't have.
As aforementioned, performances in all three quarters were just shockingly poor, the defence were caught out of position far too often, and sometimes hanging around attacking positions when the germans were breaking on a counter. The midfield, filled with big name, out of position, players who appeared lifeless for the majority of the game, why on earth capello insists on playing them in bizzare positions when they have proved themselves time and time again in other positions, e.g. Gerrard. Then finally the attackers, as much as I would like to blame them as they obviously should be the one's scoring goals, the service provided was completely ludicrous, people severely battering rooney with ridiculous comments need to realize that the service towards him has been shocking, the majority of the time, he's had to drop deep just to get a hold of the ball, were he then made a few clever runs at the german defence, to them find absolutely nobody to give the ball to.
Regarding Cappello; A friend told me that Crouch has the highest goals scored this world cup, qualifiers inc. I'm not sure whether that's correct, but regardless, how this guy wasn't even given a chance to shine whatsoever, and beaten FOUR times, to the lineup by <insert accurate description>, HESKEY, is completely mind boggling. I believe the defence would have been a lot better with Ferdinand, but we still have more options than Terry and Upson. The stubborn nature of Cappello, sticking with the same lineup & formation continuously is worthy of the sack alone. I do also think we missed Beckham's ability to play wonderful balls across the field.
In conclusion, the blame for our failure has to be shared amongst the many contributing factors; the media, as usual over-hyping the players and placing unnecessary pressure amongst them, the manager for some absolutely terrible decisions, obviously the players, who look as passionate as a damp old sock, who honestly didn't look all that bothered at the final whistle, that they had just let the millions at home down and crashed out of the world cup at the hands of their biggest international rivals and we also need to blame ourselves, for expecting too much and just being left dissapointed.
Comments like this are just ludicrous though, there's plenty more across the thread, this the closest however.
Please excuse the long post, I've been holding it in
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He shows it on a regular basis in what is said to be the best league in the world + the competitions that come with it. For whatever reason, very few of these English players can bring their form to the international field. And I don't buy into this 'the foreigners make them look good' business. If Rooney played that badly for United, Ferguson would have the balls to drop him.
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