World first QD-OLED monitor from Dell and Samsung (34 inch Ultrawide 175hz)

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There are some games that will auto switch HDR on but very rare sadly :(

Also, there is a tool that can automatically do it for you too but I don't use it as don't want another program running in the background.

Yeah, I have had a couple of games auto switch, but most do not. Not like it is hard to switch it manually anyway. What’s a bit more annoying is that it takes a few seconds to actually switch when it does. Wish it was like one second or less.
 
Hey, is it the case that both modes are inaccurate?
I may be way off here:
Hdr1000 will be in inaccurate as the difference between scenes ie a torch in a dark scene vs sky in a bright scene when both mapped to 1000 nits will be big as the sky will be lower nits than the torch which isn't as intended.
Hdr400 inacurrate as not able to reach the 1000 nit map, however the difference between the dark and bright scenes will be closer to the intended.

I'm thinking it can only be accurate if the peak luminance is the same at all window sizes, and then the quality and impact is dictated by what that peak luminance is.

I'm not sure what you're asking?

When you see a reading like 1000 nits at 1%, that means 1% of the total screen size can go upto that level.

Content is all over the place so you ideally want the highest nits on a display (assuming it's already OLED tech). This gives you highest chance of covering more scenarios without compromises (tone mapping or hard clipping).
 
I'm not sure what you're asking?

When you see a reading like 1000 nits at 1%, that means 1% of the total screen size can go upto that level.

Content is all over the place so you ideally want the highest nits on a display (assuming it's already OLED tech). This gives you highest chance of covering more scenarios without compromises (tone mapping or hard clipping).
Sorry, as you mentioned, it's quite hard to articulate:

If I make a game and master it for 1000nit, I intend the torches in the dark areas to be 800nit , and the sun and day sky outdoors to be 1000nit.
On Hdr1000, the torches inside will be 800, then when I step outside into the day the sky will be 250.
As an artist this is not what I intended. I didn't want the torches inside to be 3x brighter than the sky outside.
With hdr400 the drop isn't as big, 400 down to 250.

Currently I see both modes as compromise from the ideal.

Hdr1000 is good for the impact of seeing 1000 nits highlights in parts of dark scenes, which in turn makes the drop in luminance in bright areas lose impact in comparison.
HDR400 has lesser impact for the dark scene as it will only hit 400 nits, but then the transition to the bright scene is closer to the intended impact.

This then leads me to believe that Hdr1000 vs hdr400 is down to personal taste, until we have oled screens that output 1000 at all window sizes.
 
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There are some games that will auto switch HDR on but very rare sadly :(

Also, there is a tool that can automatically do it for you too but I don't use it as don't want another program running in the background.

That's not what I was asking

I asked does the monitor change it's mode, I didn't ask about windows I know how windows works

TVs do it all the TV, they switch between hdr and sdr output mode based on what your watching I wanted to know if the monitor does the same or are you guys constantly fiddling in the monitor menu everytime you switch from working to playing a game
 
That's not what I was asking

I asked does the monitor change it's mode, I didn't ask about windows I know how windows works

TVs do it all the TV, they switch between hdr and sdr output mode based on what your watching I wanted to know if the monitor does the same or are you guys constantly fiddling in the monitor menu everytime you switch from working to playing a game
And that's exactly what we meant, windows will auto enable hdr mode along with the monitor switching into hdr mode, it's not a monitor thing that dictates this behaviour but a game thing. It's the exact same behaviour as on my lg oled tv too.
 
And that's exactly what we meant, windows will auto enable hdr mode along with the monitor switching into hdr mode, it's not a monitor thing that dictates this behaviour but a game thing. It's the exact same behaviour as on my lg oled tv too.

Cool thanks
 
Sorry, as you mentioned, it's quite hard to articulate:

If I make a game and master it for 1000nit, I intend the torches in the dark areas to be 800nit , and the sun and day sky outdoors to be 1000nit.
On Hdr1000, the torches inside will be 800, then when I step outside into the day the sky will be 250.
As an artist this is not what I intended. I didn't want the torches inside to be 3x brighter than the sky outside.
With hdr400 the drop isn't as big, 400 down to 250.

Currently I see both modes as compromise from the ideal.

Hdr1000 is good for the impact of seeing 1000 nits highlights in parts of dark scenes, which in turn makes the drop in luminance in bright areas lose impact in comparison.
HDR400 has lesser impact for the dark scene as it will only hit 400 nits, but then the transition to the bright scene is closer to the intended impact.

This then leads me to believe that Hdr1000 vs hdr400 is down to personal taste, until we have oled screens that output 1000 at all window sizes.

If the Sun and every object in the sky is equal to 1000nits, there would be no dynamic range. You’re just boosting scene APL to 1000nits. From a looks standpoint the picture would look flat as you’d lose all depth in the image due to lack of range but it’s a hypothetical so let’s go with it. At this point an oled, like the AW or your C9 would fall back onto its ABL since there is nothing to tone map as everything is 1000nits in the scene somehow.

In reality if you took a scene that was sun and sky brightness heavy, there would be varying degrees of brightness of the various objects in that scene. This is where the display would tone map and balance out the scene given its brightness budget. In hdr1000, you have a higher range to play with.

People using hdr400 are just basically watching a brighter SDR image for the most part (in p3). It’s unfortunate the mode even exists as it’ll just create a bad expectations of hdr. People will just assume if it’s a brighter image overall, it must mean its a better hdr implementation.

You can get calman and cap your c9 at 400nits as well but I doubt you or anyone else would for the sake of avoiding less perceived fluctuations.
 
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Sorry, as you mentioned, it's quite hard to articulate:

If I make a game and master it for 1000nit, I intend the torches in the dark areas to be 800nit , and the sun and day sky outdoors to be 1000nit.
On Hdr1000, the torches inside will be 800, then when I step outside into the day the sky will be 250.
As an artist this is not what I intended. I didn't want the torches inside to be 3x brighter than the sky outside.

That's how eyes work.... In a dark area with a single source of light - your eyes will perceive that light in the dark as much brighter than it is, take the light into a bright area and the light looks dim. You go from a dark room into a bright area, for a moment it'll be *very* bright, then your eyes adjust and it's a more dim/bearable brightness -- your sky, for example, wouldn't ever be blasting '1000 nits' at you (unless you're looking directly at the sun) because there's a lot of light and your eyes would fry.. Yet that torch in a dark room could very well look 800nits because your eyes would be trying to let in as much light as possible due to the darkness around... Your scenario sounds pretty much EXACTLY as the artist would intent. lol
 
You'll likely get a email with a date update within the next few days. That said it might still ship out before that updated date.

I got a new date email after my date was missed, and then it still shipped out a few days later despite the email saying it was going to be another month.
 
You'll likely get a email with a date update within the next few days. That said it might still ship out before that updated date.

I got a new date email after my date was missed, and then it still shipped out a few days later despite the email saying it was going to be another month.
Thanks for the info ! Looks like I'll be going work tomorrow instead !
 
That's how eyes work.... In a dark area with a single source of light - your eyes will perceive that light in the dark as much brighter than it is, take the light into a bright area and the light looks dim. You go from a dark room into a bright area, for a moment it'll be *very* bright, then your eyes adjust and it's a more dim/bearable brightness -- your sky, for example, wouldn't ever be blasting '1000 nits' at you (unless you're looking directly at the sun) because there's a lot of light and your eyes would fry.. Yet that torch in a dark room could very well look 800nits because your eyes would be trying to let in as much light as possible due to the darkness around... Your scenario sounds pretty much EXACTLY as the artist would intent. lol
"You go from a dark room into a bright area, for a moment it'll be *very* bright, then your eyes adjust and it's a more dim/bearable brightness". In my scenario, as in your real life scenario, the artist wants your eyes to adjust (pupils getting smaller), this is part of the impact.

Edit, ill leave this one alone, don't think I'm being very clear and don't fancy typing more gibberish :D
 
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That's how eyes work.... In a dark area with a single source of light - your eyes will perceive that light in the dark as much brighter than it is, take the light into a bright area and the light looks dim. You go from a dark room into a bright area, for a moment it'll be *very* bright, then your eyes adjust and it's a more dim/bearable brightness -- your sky, for example, wouldn't ever be blasting '1000 nits' at you (unless you're looking directly at the sun) because there's a lot of light and your eyes would fry.. Yet that torch in a dark room could very well look 800nits because your eyes would be trying to let in as much light as possible due to the darkness around... Your scenario sounds pretty much EXACTLY as the artist would intent. lol

"You go from a dark room into a bright area, for a moment it'll be *very* bright, then your eyes adjust and it's a more dim/bearable brightness". In my scenario, as in your real life scenario, the artist wants your eyes to adjust (pupils getting smaller), this is part of the impact.

Edit, ill leave this one alone, don't think I'm being very clear and don't fancy typing more gibberish :D

you're saying the same thing basically yeah. :D
 
OK, getting excited now. I've got a 'Shipping' date of 28 July 2022 and it's the 26th tomorrow. Still not showing as 'In Production' yet....I'll let y'all know if it gets updated.

I'm sure this question has been asked many, may times already...but...how likley is it that my order will be delayed?

If my monitor is not yet 'In Production' and is yet to be manufactured, I don't think they will get the monitor to me by Friday as per the order page on the Dell website. IIRC this is a Samsung panel, and Samsung moved their display manufacturing operations to Uttar Pradesh last year....unless they're flying my monitor to me they're really going to struggle if it's not built already.
…ordered 24 March 2022, shipping date 28 July 2022 (today!), delivery date 29 July 2022 (tomorrow!)…still saying “Your order is being scheduled for production and is on track to meet the estimated arrival date.” …and it’s still not ‘In production’. I’ve also not yet received a delay/lack of parts email.

I’m managing my expectations and assuming a <25% chance it will actually arrive tomorrow, but I’m really hoping to be pleasantly surprised. I’ll keep you posted!

Out of interest, does anyone have any suggestions for either a desk-based or wall-based VESA monitor arm/mount that works well with this monitor? I’ve got an AW3418HW mounted on an Ergotron LX at the moment and it’s OK but I’m always (!) looking for an upgrade…
 
I must admit first experience with dell they are pretty useless ... doubt I'll ever use them again, tempted to get the lg ips for £650 instead but as I've waited this long might aswell wait another (insert random number here) months. Just sucks that people over the world are ordering and getting them 2 weeks later and if you order now allegedly you will get it in 2 months.
 
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