***World of Warcraft : Warlords of Draenor***
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100% agree on this and MM has always been my favourite spec even back in TBC. Although back then you had to be BM so what I raided as. Though I am loving MM at present. Playing without a pet is good fun too. Very unconventional but Aimed shot followed by Chimera then kill or double kill not much out lives that when out and about on your lonely Todd
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Am I missing something? I haven't seen a single Marks hunter using Focusing Shot?
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I'm very cautious of this... Having been on the end of it myself (3 of them were in the same guild) and can only assume they kicked me to invite another player (everything had gone smoothly, no deaths, nadda!)
Now if I see a guild group and their is a bit of aggro from them at the start I just leave.
I wouldn't worry about getting kicked (unless it is at the very end) because as a tank, you will be the one who gets an instant group right away with no wait.
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Quick question...
How are people finding their "alt" experience? I wouldn't mind levelling my alt but I feel it is pointless unless I give the alt's garrison a good go, but not sure I want to sink that much time into it...
Really wishing the garrisons were account wide! I think it would be better to instead of having randoms work in your profession buildings, to have your alts work there to give the bonus. Heck I think it might have even worked to remove the buildings all together and just allow access to your alts professions in the garrison by talking to them (rather than log out and re-log) - and this is coming from some one who only has a few alts and they don't have max professions (incase you think I have all alts and all professions covered - "aint nobody got time for dat!").
How are people finding their "alt" experience? I wouldn't mind levelling my alt but I feel it is pointless unless I give the alt's garrison a good go, but not sure I want to sink that much time into it...
Really wishing the garrisons were account wide! I think it would be better to instead of having randoms work in your profession buildings, to have your alts work there to give the bonus. Heck I think it might have even worked to remove the buildings all together and just allow access to your alts professions in the garrison by talking to them (rather than log out and re-log) - and this is coming from some one who only has a few alts and they don't have max professions (incase you think I have all alts and all professions covered - "aint nobody got time for dat!").
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It's the biggest clichè, people automatically blame the healer or tank if they die or mobs come off them. I was in a team with 2 other friends and I was a tank, but one of the mobs fixates and it's not the one you can interrupt or taunt off again(or stun) and one of the other people was moaning about "get it off me you scrub".
That and at the start of the instance I was using some buff food for extra HP and he was impatient and pulled, all it would've taken was 10 seconds, the entire time he was jumping ahead and messing up my grouping of mobs so aoe's hit ALL of them.
In his head attacking right away was quicker, but in the longer run getting more mobs hit is quicker with cleaving attacks from everyone, but nope, he didn't care he had already decided I was an idiot and was so hostile.
We couldn't kick the guy with 3 votes :/
But it's rare for me atm, I usually have healers compliment me at having an easier job
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I am still on the squishy side at the moment due to not having enough of the correct gear, I get by well enough but definately need to pay attention to CDs and need the healer paying attention as well. Find myself using abilities on a regular basis that I simply never had to before such as Warstomp just to give the healer that extra few seconds or using heroic leap out of the pack then charging back in again to give the healer and dps a few extra hits. I Haven't had to manage things like that since TBC and it is nice. I just wish people were as good as CCing things as they were back in TBC.
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We couldn't kick the guy with 3 votes :/
But it's rare for me atm, I usually have healers compliment me at having an easier job
I like it when a tank takes the few extra seconds to recompose the group and then pull the next pack of mobs... For me, the instance then becomes more enjoyable and in the end is faster as I can better manage my mana and not have to drink... DPS standing in **** is my biggest grievance at the moment and they wonder why I won't heal them when they do it. Its not a case of me being difficult, but as a holy paladin we don't have any big hitting heals so I just can't waste the mana on them using quick-expensive heals to get them back up. Prioritise the tank (obv) and then the DPS which is high and is better at managing the damage they take!
It is annoying when DPS get annoyed at you when it is intact their fault... A lot of DPS think that is all they have to do, but avoidance, interrupting etc... is all part and parcel of these dungeons and they need to step up (its always been the same for healers and tanks so we know the deal already - and you can tell if people have an off-spec tank/healer as they are more aware of the fights).
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One thing I will say... If you want people to CC then mark certain mobs (Back in the day blue square was the hunters CC job, and the moon was the mages CC job). Expect to get grief though if the DPS want to AOE everything! worst comes to worst, they kick you and you get in a new dungeon right away!
What you will find is that you might not be as squishy as you think... If DPS are taking on avoidable damage some healers will then have to spread their healing (which ultimately means the tanks HP will drop). It is nice that you are aware of your abilities to be able to jump out and then back in... That is pretty cool!
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Hunters Barrage does not agree with CC
Not played overly much since the expansion, but have enjoyed the questing thoroughly, maybe because i took it slowly, maybe because they're better this expansion, most likely because i read every quest (almost, at 99 i just said meh and went for it in nagrand).
Had a normal dungeon last night, only 1 ilvl away from heroics. I've not raided since Wrath / Tier 1 cata, and didn't play overly much in mists so i was playing during the faceroll era a while after launch. I was a bit surprised at the group i had.
As it turns out we got everbloom, everyone said they hadn't been there before but that's fine. Cool beans. Only no one bothered to read the dungeon journal, and i don't mean in detail, all i did was look at the "dps do this" section. But i kept having to summarize it for people.
We wiped on the first boss due to bad pulls with trash, during it i watched the boss and moved out of his aoe silence thing, after the wipe i was extremely cheery because hey, a hard dungeon maybe? Tank mentioned he can't do anything due to the silence and i said to move out of it, i instantly got a torrent of "wtf man ive never been here how should i know" (paraphrased and cleaned up), i was left thinking "its an aoe... if you are standing in aoe you move... WoW 101". From then on i took lead and the run went smoothly with another wipe but otherwise a fine run. Everyone seemed to enjoy it overall.
Can't believe people wouldn't take the most basic step of "theres some bullet pointed instructions that take 10 seconds to read, maybe i should read them?" or simple things like not stand in aoe. Or interupt spell casts. I might go back to guild runs
Or level a tank, often become defacto dungeon leaders which gives a little bit of coordination if you're happy to summarize.
Had a normal dungeon last night, only 1 ilvl away from heroics. I've not raided since Wrath / Tier 1 cata, and didn't play overly much in mists so i was playing during the faceroll era a while after launch. I was a bit surprised at the group i had.
As it turns out we got everbloom, everyone said they hadn't been there before but that's fine. Cool beans. Only no one bothered to read the dungeon journal, and i don't mean in detail, all i did was look at the "dps do this" section. But i kept having to summarize it for people.
We wiped on the first boss due to bad pulls with trash, during it i watched the boss and moved out of his aoe silence thing, after the wipe i was extremely cheery because hey, a hard dungeon maybe? Tank mentioned he can't do anything due to the silence and i said to move out of it, i instantly got a torrent of "wtf man ive never been here how should i know" (paraphrased and cleaned up), i was left thinking "its an aoe... if you are standing in aoe you move... WoW 101". From then on i took lead and the run went smoothly with another wipe but otherwise a fine run. Everyone seemed to enjoy it overall.
Can't believe people wouldn't take the most basic step of "theres some bullet pointed instructions that take 10 seconds to read, maybe i should read them?" or simple things like not stand in aoe. Or interupt spell casts. I might go back to guild runs
Or level a tank, often become defacto dungeon leaders which gives a little bit of coordination if you're happy to summarize.
With a second-level mine in your garrison you get loads of the stuff. I've got about 400 of each ore, between my two highest characters, and I don't mine anything in the outside world any more.
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I am also interested in what people are doing with their alts, I CBA to do the garrison grind again so how are people getting round that? just doing the basic?
Thats the thing, i really don't know... I had 7 90s by the end of MoP. I'll probably just pick a 1 char i do it on mainly, 2 i do it on a tad. And the rest i'd just maybe skip entirely. Most of the garrison stuff isn't required, you can get gold and items but you don't NEED to if you don't want to i guess.
It will be nice to do a little herb run each day on each character for my alchemist though.
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Doesn't surprise me, Mining nodes are everywhere and the garrison is so full of ore once you upgrade your mine the market is just flooded with it. Add that to how slow the crafting professions are the crafting mats are worthless. Especially as none miners can mine at their garrison.
I didn't think Alchemy used herbs as such? a bit like JC doesnt use jewels, it uses Herbs etc
Ehh im a boomkin and i make int / greater int flasks with herbs. Good enough for me
but yes i've seen lots of talk of fishing being required for alchemy.