***World of Warcraft : Warlords of Draenor***

So, I noticed that the Daily Garrison Inn Quests have bred a whole new kind of retard. The kind that start mission, get their item then leave.

yea random dungeon queue sucks right now, I keep getting in groups that already did 2 bosses then I have to wait another 15-20minutes :| and likely get the same thing....
 
It is a pain when the item is at, or before, the first boss as then you are screwed... if they are alter on in the dungeon then you tend to find people completing them regardless for the guaranteed drop on final boss etc...
 
So, I noticed that the Daily Garrison Inn Quests have bred a whole new kind of retard. The kind that start mission, get their item then leave.

I'm not a PvE fan really, I just like collecting mounts/achievements/pets/toys etc and PvPing, but the only way to get those toys is from dungeons, and I'm not sitting through an entire dungeon when I already have what I need. No need to call people retards, blame blizzard if anyone.

On the bright side, I can now fly in draenor as gamon.

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No need to call people retards, blame blizzard if anyone.
The choice is firmly in the hands of the player :P I wouldn't do it and the UBRS one you can solo, I've seen more people do that. Luckily as a tank I don't have to wait to queue or anything! :]
 
I'm not a PvE fan really, I just like collecting mounts/achievements/pets/toys etc and PvPing, but the only way to get those toys is from dungeons, and I'm not sitting through an entire dungeon when I already have what I need. No need to call people retards, blame blizzard if anyone.

On the bright side, I can now fly in draenor as gamon.

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If you want your pet/vanity item that drops from a PvE dungeon, have a little bit of respect and decency for the other people who are there and FINISH the dungeon. Others may have been queuing for an hour to get in.

There is nothing worse than joining a half completed dungeon or WORSE joining at the exact point where other people have got their item and left; then new joiners get their item then leave.

I presume you only need to do the dungeon once as part of your achievement, hardly a lot to ask. I figure you love it when people AFK and leech in your PvP endeavours? After all, they hate PvP, just want the Honor!
 
If you want your pet/vanity item that drops from a PvE dungeon, have a little bit of respect and decency for the other people who are there and FINISH the dungeon. Others may have been queuing for an hour to get in.

There is nothing worse than joining a half completed dungeon or WORSE joining at the exact point where other people have got their item and left; then new joiners get their item then leave.

I presume you only need to do the dungeon once as part of your achievement, hardly a lot to ask. I figure you love it when people AFK and leech in your PvP endeavours? After all, they hate PvP, just want the Honor!

Respect and decency? Really? It takes 5 seconds to find another DPS. This is a game, I want to spend the time I have doing things I want to do, who gives a **** if you have to wait an extra few seconds for a DPS. I queued up too, just for a different reason.

And no, its a daily. I'm not doing an entire dungeon every single day when I can get it done in 5 mins and you can find another dps in 5 seconds. Leeching in PvP is a lot different. I participate in the dungeon up to the point where I get my item, sometimes a bit further if we are close to the final boss. Then I leave and you can find a replacement.
 
He has a point, It is a crap thing to do. You have used 4 other people to get an item then just dump them. Yeah it takes 5 seconds to get a new DPS but if you then join that instance part way through as a DPS it is frustrating. Especially if you have a quest to kill all 4 bosses of an instance and keep joining part way through an instance.
 
I'm sure its frustrating, but there is no need for him to blame me and call people retards, blame blizzard for their poor design choice. I want to get do my daily and I have no use for the dungeon after I have gotten my item, and tbf I'm never going to see the players again so why should I care.
 
Respect and decency? Really? It takes 5 seconds to find another DPS. This is a game, I want to spend the time I have doing things I want to do, who gives a **** if you have to wait an extra few seconds for a DPS. I queued up too, just for a different reason.

And no, its a daily. I'm not doing an entire dungeon every single day when I can get it done in 5 mins and you can find another dps in 5 seconds. Leeching in PvP is a lot different. I participate in the dungeon up to the point where I get my item, sometimes a bit further if we are close to the final boss. Then I leave and you can find a replacement.

You are selfish and arrogant.

Leeching in PvP is NO different. Someone is abusing the rest of the team for their own gain.

It's not "An extra few seconds" at all. If the tank/healer drops it can take a long time. Then you are crap out of luck when your new tank/healer only want the item, loot it, and leave - Throwing you into the queue again.

Stop abusing the LFM tool for your own selfish gain. Do the daily in a Pre-Made or guild group with the SOLE intention of getting the item then quitting.

The sooner Blizzard add a secondary objective to the inn quests which is "Kill The Final Boss" the better. Which is exactly what is going to happen while everyone continues to hit and run as they do now.

I'm sure its frustrating, but there is no need for him to blame me and call people retards, blame blizzard for their poor design choice. I want to get do my daily and I have no use for the dungeon after I have gotten my item, and tbf I'm never going to see the players again so why should I care.

Lovely attitude. What's your Realm/Name? If I ever end up being the unfortunate person who has to team with you I'll ensure to kick you from the group (Right before the item you need, so I waste your time and use you for clearing up till that point)
 
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It isn't blizzard fault at all.... It is the people that feel it is OK to join a 5 man dungeon, get part way through and leave. Your attitude towards it is just appalling "Oh I don't know that person so **** them"

God I love the internet at times, it brings out the worst in People. I think how I'd feel if someone did that to me and then act accordingly, I just wish more people did the same.
 
Indeed Tune, I appreciate you as a DPS can be replaced in an instant. It's still an inconvenience for the others though.

It's made even worse when it's a healer or tank I imagine :(
 
You are selfish and arrogant.

now now

Leeching in PvP is NO different. Someone is abusing the rest of the team for their own gain.

I'm not abusing anyone, my quest is in this dungeon, I have no obligation to finish it. It is a hell of a lot different.

It's not "An extra few seconds" at all. If the tank/healer drops it can take a long time. Then you are crap out of luck when your new tank/healer only want the item, loot it, and leave - Throwing you into the queue again.

Sure but I'm talking about me personally. I'm a DPS, it takes a few seconds to replace me. Slightly more for a tank/healer too. Someone left my group earlier and I waited no more than 20 seconds for a replacement tank.

Stop abusing the LFM tool for your own selfish gain. Do the daily in a Pre-Made or guild group with the SOLE intention of getting the item then quitting.

Its not against the rules. I'm not abusing anything. I just have no reason to sit around after I have what I need. Why do you insist on blaming me and not blizzard? There is no incentive at all for me to finish the dungeon after I have what I need.

The sooner Blizzard add a secondary objective to the inn quests which is "Kill The Final Boss" the better. Which is exactly what is going to happen while everyone continues to hit and run as they do now.

Sure, and I would be personally fine with this, but until then I'll keep doing what I'm doing.


Lovely attitude. What's your Realm/Name? If I ever end up being the unfortunate person who has to team with you I'll ensure to kick you from the group (Right before the item you need, so I waste your time and use you for clearing up till that point)

Something something lovely attitude.
 
So, I noticed that the Daily Garrison Inn Quests have bred a whole new kind of retard. The kind that start mission, get their item then leave.

Retards indeed :P

How to do an Inn quest:

  1. Pick up quest
  2. Extend raid lockout for that heroic
  3. Go to instance
  4. Collect item
  5. Use Garrison HS
  6. Hand in quest
  7. Chill

:D

EDIT: No I'm not trolling you guys, it is that easy and having an active lockout won't stop you using LFD.
 
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How to do an Inn quest:

  1. Pick up quest
  2. Extend raid lockout for that heroic
  3. Go to instance
  4. Collect item
  5. Use Garrison HS
  6. Hand in quest
  7. Chill

:D

Yeah I've started doing this, its a lot easier. But still need to finish all the dungeons which I'll get to at some point to extend them.
 
There should be a 'punishment' for abandoning a dungeon mid way through.

A real time cool down (e.g. not one served while logged out) that prevents joining any further queues. If it stacked, e.g. a rolling 7 days (to account for the daily'ers) so each time you abandoned in the rolling 7 days doubled the time.

5, 10, 20, 40 'real minutes' would be quite a hindrance.
 
Not really. I only have 1 dungeon daily a day, once its over I have no use for queueing again. I'm sure it'll work for some people but its not a solution.
 
Thus the rolling 7 days, if you're doing your dailies and every time you quit it will never 'cool-off' so you just keeping adding time, eventually it will catch up.

I suppose at that point you'll just leave yourself logged in to cool it off while AFK :P
 
now now

I'm not abusing anyone, my quest is in this dungeon, I have no obligation to finish it. It is a hell of a lot different.

Sure but I'm talking about me personally. I'm a DPS, it takes a few seconds to replace me. Slightly more for a tank/healer too. Someone left my group earlier and I waited no more than 20 seconds for a replacement tank.

Its not against the rules. I'm not abusing anything. I just have no reason to sit around after I have what I need. Why do you insist on blaming me and not blizzard? There is no incentive at all for me to finish the dungeon after I have what I need.

Sure, and I would be personally fine with this, but until then I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

Something something lovely attitude.

If DPS keep leaving then sometimes the tanks or healers get fed up and leave too, and they can take significantly longer to replace.

You are right in the sense that it isn't in the rules, but it's still abusing the intended use for the system. Fair enough you do that, and you won't stop. But stop trying to justify it, because what you are doing does make you a bit of an arse. You won't come out of this looking like a nice guy, you can't have it both ways.
 
Thus the rolling 7 days, if you're doing your dailies and every time you quit it will never 'cool-off' so you just keeping adding time, eventually it will catch up.

I suppose at that point you'll just leave yourself logged in to cool it off while AFK :P

Yeah I guess. Easier for them to just make it so you have to clear the entire dungeon though, and probably what will eventually happen.
 
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