***World of Warcraft : Warlords of Draenor***

There just needs to be more reason to finish dungeons, my suggestion would be some apexis crystals, which seem to take an annoyingly long time to gather for the reward you actually get from them at the minute.

Anybody else also feel the crafting system is a bit 'meh', the time it takes to actually make stuff seems extortionate let alone upgrade it all...
 
Tune said:
Yeah I guess. Easier for them to just make it so you have to clear the entire dungeon though, and probably what will eventually happen.
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Indeed.

Fair enough you do that, and you won't stop. But stop trying to justify it, because what you are doing does make you a bit of an arse. You won't come out of this looking like a nice guy, you can't have it both ways.
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I do agree with this ;) Probably why your getting more flak than you feel you deserve Tune! :P
 
DazQ87 said:
There just needs to be more reason to finish dungeons, my suggestion would be some apexis crystals, which seem to take an annoyingly long time to gather for the reward you actually get from them at the minute.

Anybody else also feel the crafting system is a bit 'meh', the time it takes to actually make stuff seems extortionate let alone upgrade it all...
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Seen this suggested quite a lot, but its just going to turn into the whole justice points thing again then, which blizzard has just removed. But yeah there definitely needs to be more of an incentive.

But yeah, crafting takes a while, I've only just gotten 100 gearspring parts for engi but made 2 pets that have gotten me 20k+ so not complaining.


Nathyrra said:
If DPS keep leaving then sometimes the tanks or healers get fed up and leave too, and they can take significantly longer to replace.

You are right in the sense that it isn't in the rules, but it's still abusing the intended use for the system. Fair enough you do that, and you won't stop. But stop trying to justify it, because what you are doing does make you a bit of an arse. You won't come out of this looking like a nice guy, you can't have it both ways.
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I'm not trying to. I just didn't really understand why he was calling people retards. I'm sure everyone here has left a few dungeons in their time. If I have to choose between wasting 5-25 seconds of your time and 10 or so minutes of my time, I'm going to choose to waste yours. If that makes me an arse then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm perfectly fine with them making the quests so that you have to finish the entire dungeon, but atm its easier for me to just leave.
 
Tune said:
I'm sure its frustrating, but there is no need for him to blame me and call people retards, blame blizzard for their poor design choice. I want to get do my daily and I have no use for the dungeon after I have gotten my item, and tbf I'm never going to see the players again so why should I care.
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That's a lovely attitude. Just because it's perfectly viable to behave that way in-game doesn't make it right. Do you also tag mobs other players are going for? Have you need-rolled items you should be greeding?
 
Edrof said:
That's a lovely attitude. Just because it's perfectly viable to behave that way in-game doesn't make it right. Do you also tag mobs other players are going for? Have you need-rolled items you should be greeding?
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Let's not keep beating on this point.

It's adding nothing to the game discussion now and it just needs to be moved on. Let's face facts, people will take advantage of anything they can if it's available to them.

Blizzard will respond eventually, and the focus will be elsewhere.
 
MadMossy said:
The thing is Poundfist is everywhere now, its no longer an omg thats awesome mount. It's much like the Corehound, everyone has it!
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I don't have either! I'm not even level 100 yet :) I'm just taking my time levelling. I have just finished Gorgrond and I've got to say, it is a spectacular zone. I've often thought many of the zones in vanilla and other expansions were immersive, but Gorgrong is a particularly impressive zone. You actually feel like it's the home of Ogron and Gronn. It just has the right atmosphere and feeling about it, that desolate, harsh landscape that looks like it would be very tough to survive in. It represents the dog-eat-dog world that those sorts of beasts no doubt thrive in.

I can't wait to see what Spires of Arak look like now. I am purposefully steering away from screenshots etc on the internet because I want my first visit there to be the first time I see it.

Oh, and I had to do the Garrison fishing quest in Frostfire Ridge last night. That was an amazing experience as well, that place looks harsh and absolutely massive! And those gigantic skeletons, wtf are they?

I am loving this expansion. Never before have I felt so much a part of the world. I am just enjoying taking my time exploring each zone as I visit it and it is working well for me!
 
Edrof said:
That's a lovely attitude. Just because it's perfectly viable to behave that way in-game doesn't make it right.
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Sure, but I'm not worried about whats right. Its not against the rules in any way so I'm not bothered.

Edrof said:
Do you also tag mobs other players are going for?
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Yes? Its fair game until they are attacking the mob.

Edrof said:
Have you need-rolled items you should be greeding?
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Nah, I'm not that evil :)
 
People have been taking 'advantage' of the lfg tool ever since its implementation, dps have had to put up with God complex tanks and healers since the start. I agree with tune, in and out as quick was possible.
 
I'm tempted, not going to lie... I did NOT like MoP, last time I truly got into this was cata.

What are the chances of me liking it again? I hate the way it became a grind of sitting in a city, using the lfg tool, rinse and repeat, NO need to ever leave the city. Bored me endlessly.
 
CHokKA said:
I am loving this expansion. Never before have I felt so much a part of the world. I am just enjoying taking my time exploring each zone as I visit it and it is working well for me!
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I have to agree, I grew up with Warcraft Humans and Orcs, and this is all nothing but pure fun!

I'm actually extremely disappointed I skipped Pandaria as well. Personally I love the area; it's art, music, story, and quests.

I'm half half between Draenor and Pandaria at the moment, and I've been enjoying all of it. Currently also trying to work my way towards getting the Heavenly Cloud Serpents, ( Onyx & Golden ), along with Alani as well.

At the same time I'm enthralled with Draenor, it feels and plays like a grand Single player RPG sometimes. Amazing art, gameplay, stories, cut scenes, and voice acting. I really enjoy it.

I do feel horribly out of place as a Pandaren monk though haha.

The garrison system is also fantastic! I've always been slightly more towards the PvP aspect and the Gladiator Sanctum and it's quests are a lot of fun.

Although dare I say my garrison is in shambles, you apparently only have some viable setups to help you end game for epic loot and the like, and just went with that I like. :D
 
Tune said:
Rubbish...
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Newbie007 said:
Rubbish...
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Wow, you guys sound like such nice people :rolleyes: I really hope that I never join a dungeon with either of you. You're both a perfect example of the "me" culture that the internet seems to have bred.

Unless you are leaving for an emergency, joining a group and then leaving once you've done your part is totally wrong and it really is the wrong attitude to have. You are messing other people around and nothing you say will justify it as being the right thing to do. Are you both this selfish in real life as well, or do you behave normally there because there are actually repercussions to your attitude?
 
Pretty much identical but you'll burn through the zones even quicker ( quickest levelling experience yet and smallest amount of quests in a expac I think) - u won't be sat in a city though, you'll be in your garrison. It's a remarkably fun levelling experience though - just not a huge amount to do once your there.
 
Just dinged last night and did the proving grounds so I can now DPS and tank with my DK.

Is there anything I should be doing other than grinding heroics now?

Also, have the queues on Silvermoon gone? I was going to transfer my DK over for the guild.
 
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agnes said:
I'm tempted, not going to lie... I did NOT like MoP, last time I truly got into this was cata.

What are the chances of me liking it again? I hate the way it became a grind of sitting in a city, using the lfg tool, rinse and repeat, NO need to ever leave the city. Bored me endlessly.
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It really depends on what you're after. Did you do any PvP or just PvE?

Read my post (above) for an idea of what I'm enjoying about the expansion. Add in the Garrison and the fact that you actually feel like you're having an impact on the world, and it sets a thoroughly enjoyable story out for you. Each zone has several chapters and there's a nice little phased battle or event at the end of each zone that you get to not only participate in, but lead and feel like you're actually having an impact.

Also, even the little things like finishing a quest where you get an item or even a follower is exciting because there's a chance to get that item upgraded as it given to you because the game has a chance to randomly upgrade loot to blue or purple depending on what colour the item originally was.

Then there's the follower aspect, and obviously the Garrison, which really makes you feel a proper part of the new world. I did the quest to get the fishing shack up and running in my Garrison yesterday and then I actually just spent 30 minutes catching fish in the pond to level up both fishing and cooking, something which I haven't done since WotLK. And I enjoyed it!

The zones are beautiful (see my other post) and I am really not begrudging having to use a ground mount because it actually lets you appreciate things way more than you would just flying over and through really quickly.

It's hard to put a finger on why it feels different, because there's just so much that's different but for me personally, it's all different in a very good way. They've learned a lot from their previous expansions and this one just feels leaps and bounds ahead of the rest in terms of immersion and enjoyment.
 
CHokKA said:
Wow, you guys sound like such nice people :rolleyes: I really hope that I never join a dungeon with either of you. You're both a perfect example of the "me" culture that the internet seems to have bred.
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Thanks for your input.

CHokKA said:
Unless you are leaving for an emergency, joining a group and then leaving once you've done your part is totally wrong and it really is the wrong attitude to have.
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I'm not obligated to finish a dungeon, I can leave when I want. It may be the wrong attitude to you, but I prefer to spend my time doing things I enjoy in the game, not being miserable clearing a dungeon just so I don't upset a few players by making them wait a few extra seconds.

CHokKA said:
You are messing other people around and nothing you say will justify it as being the right thing to do. Are you both this selfish in real life as well, or do you behave normally there because there are actually repercussions to your attitude?
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No not at all, and I don't consider me wanting to finish my quest then leave a dungeon to be selfish. It would be selfish if I found a group with 4 other people then abandoned them forcing them to also quit the dungeon, but I can be replaced in seconds.
 
agnes said:
I'm tempted, not going to lie... I did NOT like MoP, last time I truly got into this was cata.

What are the chances of me liking it again? I hate the way it became a grind of sitting in a city, using the lfg tool, rinse and repeat, NO need to ever leave the city. Bored me endlessly.
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I'm a recent returner to the game too and I'd recommend you give some serious thought as to whether it's worth £40+ to come back. I'm mostly enjoying it at a casual level but it's more of the same with the usual Blizzard tweaks and polish to keep the game current. If you had issues with specific aspects of the game before, these issues probably haven't gone away. If you found you just didn't like the Pandaria zones and lore then WoD may have more appeal.
 
agnes said:
I'm tempted, not going to lie... I did NOT like MoP, last time I truly got into this was cata.

What are the chances of me liking it again? I hate the way it became a grind of sitting in a city, using the lfg tool, rinse and repeat, NO need to ever leave the city. Bored me endlessly.
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IMO you should like this, it's a LOT better than MoP was, feels a lot like TBC (mainly because it's in outland lol).

A few of the cool new things:

  • The are dozens of conflict points on maps, where you enter an area and a bonus "kill X of this mobs and save this dude" quest appears, I liked this.
  • The are LOADS of rares and respawns are quick, only lootable once though to stop people camping them (apart from L100 rares which can be killed once a day).
  • The new Garrison system and followers/building/etc is cool, "You wanted housing? bah, have your own fort!"
  • Whole game just feels "better" than in Cata/MoP
  • The are loads of cut scenes for the story quests, and the story is cool, I don't want to give too much away but because of this being an alternate/parallel Draenor created by time meddling the are lots of dead characters still alive and some good/bad ones have swapped.

When I noticed that a random high ranking Draenei NPC who I had been interacting with was "Exarch Akama" it was so cool, there's LOADS of little things like that

It started out as the coolest new expansion since TBC for me but by the time the questing was done I consider it the coolest expansion to date.
 
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