***World of Warcraft : Warlords of Draenor***

Why does everyone expect to still get the same experience in this game as to when they first played it? It baffles me some of the things people complain about..

I still get that sort of experience to be honest, interesting story (for the most part) good multi-player experience (guild-wise) and great looking game in my opinion, sure it's not 2015 hyper HD graphics, but I love the art style.
 
Because that's what we want and what we paid for? How does this baffle you? If you walked out your house one day and your luxury car suddenly turned into a Daewoo would you just shrug it off?

Because that has got absolutely nothing to do with this situation. Throwing money at a game only to find it isn't exactly the same game as when you were a "noob" and played it all experiencing it all for the first time and then complaining about it? That's ridiculous.

The game has changed from what it was before and if you're buying it you should do adequate research to know that before buying.
 
The fact is if it was how it was back in Vanilla it wouldn't have no where near the player base it does now, it's been surviving because of the casualness of most of the game, anyone can spend a bit of time and be ready for whatever they wanna do.
 
The fact is if it was how it was back in Vanilla it wouldn't have no where near the player base it does now, it's been surviving because of the casualness of most of the game, anyone can spend a bit of time and be ready for whatever they wanna do.

Pure hyperbole that though Chis, no one knows if the sub base would be bigger or smaller. Could quite easily claim it as fact that the game would still be at the 12million sub region (i.e WotLK number) if they didn't continue to cater to the 'casual crowd'.
 
Pure hyperbole that though Chis, no one knows if the sub base would be bigger or smaller. Could quite easily claim it as fact that the game would still be at the 12million sub region (i.e WotLK number) if they didn't continue to cater to the 'casual crowd'.

Let's not pretend WotLK wasn't casual, yeah they put more thought into the content but you could still easily farm dungeons and get gear, they have just turned it up a few notches now.
 
WOTLK raids were not casual in the slightest apart from T1, the rest of the raids were solid. Ulduar was also one of the best raids blizzard created.

That being said Wotlk did start the trend of "everything being handed on a plate" and Cata we saw it come to be fully realized. I myself got awfully bored with the game and by the end of Cata and quit for good, as did a lot of my friends/guildies, PvP was a mess and Dragonsoul was a terribly boring raid instance.

A bunch of us did try and make a mini come back for WoD but it's more of the same and most of us got bored pretty fast. Out of all of the core members from my my guild from start of TBC-Cata 3 people (that I know of) are playing. All in top 5 guilds, god knows how they managed to play for so long!
 
Yeah i agreee, Ulduar was my fav raid theyve done, was great having the options to do the hard modes when ya had a good raid setup.

I think in Cata they started handing everything to ya on a plate with LFR and Legendaries becoming a lot less legendary since half the guild had one, but the most annoying thing they did was remove our cookie cutter specs which gave the the option to have some real fun with our specs and mix things up in PVP suprising other players with specs they werent expecting.
 
Guys, im looking for someone who maybe grinds gold, and could help me out on how i can go about getting a fairly decent amount, i am willing to grind and work for it of course!
Just let me know :p
Quickest way I make gold now, is level as many toons as you can, get their garrison mine and herb gardens to lvl3, empty them daily and just sell it all on the AH.
While doing that get a ton of missions going, and make sure you have a salvage yard and an enchanters thingy so you can DE any high lvl greens for the AH.
 
Is anyone here still raiding?

The guild I've joined are stuck on Socrethar heroic, we only tried it for an hour or so though and its raid night tonight so should get a few hours on it. It really seems to favour bigger groups this fight as that debuff ring you get that lasts for about 2 minutes was really taxing on 2 healers when 4 rings are up.
 
Guys, im looking for someone who maybe grinds gold, and could help me out on how i can go about getting a fairly decent amount, i am willing to grind and work for it of course!
Just let me know :p

Back when I played I used TradeSkillMaster. Takes a while to set up and learn but it made me millions of gold. I had JC, Enchanting, Mining and blacksmithing. I don't know how relevant this is now however, haven't played since half way through pandaland and haven't set foot in Draenor.

Also, Autohotkey for mass prospecting and disenchanting. I pretty much owned the auction house on my server and got enough hate mail to build a monument out of. My level 5 Rogue was the most hated character on that server and some of the people who would moan would then see me on my main later on and be all friendly.

To this day I think a total of three people knew that the rogue was me :p
 
Back when I played I used TradeSkillMaster. Takes a while to set up and learn but it made me millions of gold. I had JC, Enchanting, Mining and blacksmithing. I don't know how relevant this is now however, haven't played since half way through pandaland and haven't set foot in Draenor.

Also, Autohotkey for mass prospecting and disenchanting. I pretty much owned the auction house on my server and got enough hate mail to build a monument out of. My level 5 Rogue was the most hated character on that server and some of the people who would moan would then see me on my main later on and be all friendly.

To this day I think a total of three people knew that the rogue was me :p

You will have to explain mass prospecting and disenchanting as im a scrub haha, nah ive just never came across or got into any professions yet, what did you use the level 5 for and what did you use your main for? Can you explain it too me?
 
Windows 10 has killed some of my Steam games -_- so until I find a way to get them back up again (my fault for not doing enough research), I've been tempted to return to wow for a spot. Though not sure if it will be worth it, not played in some time, since before Draenor.

A quick Google shows Scroll of Res no longer exists, so that counts that bit out :(

I've never been a big raider, mostly BGs and exploring. I've got until tomorrow to use a 7 day free time, which I guess may give me some time to evaluate coming back late in an expansion.

Hopefully I'm wrong on the Scroll of Res though.
 
All of this may be out of date, but here goes:

You buy ore from the auction house in stacks. In WOTLK it was Saronite, in Cataclysm it was Elementium. Basically the middle ore. Then you use Autohotkey to prospect it all whilst you view pronz or whatever.

http://stormspire.net/consortium-qu...kground-prospecting-milling-legitimately.html

Then you cut the rare gems in to cuts which sell well, with TSM you can queue up stock so you never have an uneven balance.

Uncommon gems turned in to jewellery. Blue quality jewellery woukd sometimes proc, these go on the auction house. Green jewellery gets disenchanted again using Autohotkey and the materials are used for scrolls wh8ch again go on the AH.

On top of that you teach TSM to look for good deals, loads of items get listed at silly cheap prices and they're great for reselling. Those Stranglethorn parrots (Hyacinth Macaw?) were great for this.

I've just seen on Reddit that there is no prospecting in WOD. Just another nail in wow's coffin then, I spent many a night just making gold and selling it.
 
All of this may be out of date, but here goes:

You buy ore from the auction house in stacks. In WOTLK it was Saronite, in Cataclysm it was Elementium. Basically the middle ore. Then you use Autohotkey to prospect it all whilst you view pronz or whatever.

http://stormspire.net/consortium-qu...kground-prospecting-milling-legitimately.html

Then you cut the rare gems in to cuts which sell well, with TSM you can queue up stock so you never have an uneven balance.

Uncommon gems turned in to jewellery. Blue quality jewellery woukd sometimes proc, these go on the auction house. Green jewellery gets disenchanted again using Autohotkey and the materials are used for scrolls wh8ch again go on the AH.

On top of that you teach TSM to look for good deals, loads of items get listed at silly cheap prices and they're great for reselling. Those Stranglethorn parrots (Hyacinth Macaw?) were great for this.

I've just seen on Reddit that there is no prospecting in WOD. Just another nail in wow's coffin then, I spent many a night just making gold and selling it.

I think im understanding this, but where do i have to stand or go etc and then start the script? Do i have to go find anything or have any professions in order to do this? Also, when do i have to stop etc, or when do i have to physically do something and when/how would i do it?
 
Read the guides mate, it's all in there :)


I had a level 5 character who was a guild master so had an entire guild vault to himself. That was for auctioning and undercutting. Owning the auction house will make you loads of enemies, so keep your main characters out of it. You'll be constantly undercutting everyone else by one copper if you do it right, expect loads of hate mail.

You use a macro in the game on spell button 1. This macro will be to prospect or disenchant. Then with Autohotkey you tell it to press 1 in WOW every time you move the mouse, so you can tab out of wow and go browse the web or whatever and come back to bags full of mats. TSM is an entire beast on its own, you'll habe to dig out some guides as my info is almost certainky out of date and it's a lot to take in.

It'll take you a few days to sort it all out, but once it's all set up you'll be a gold making machine.
 
Read the guides mate, it's all in there :)


I had a level 5 character who was a guild master so had an entire guild vault to himself. That was for auctioning and undercutting. Owning the auction house will make you loads of enemies, so keep your main characters out of it. You'll be constantly undercutting everyone else by one copper if you do it right, expect loads of hate mail.

You use a macro in the game on spell button 1. This macro will be to prospect or disenchant. Then with Autohotkey you tell it to press 1 in WOW every time you move the mouse, so you can tab out of wow and go browse the web or whatever and come back to bags full of mats. TSM is an entire beast on its own, you'll habe to dig out some guides as my info is almost certainky out of date and it's a lot to take in.

It'll take you a few days to sort it all out, but once it's all set up you'll be a gold making machine.

So am i looking for a jewelcrafting setup guide?
 
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