Xbox Scorpio
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Nope, not really. Though you can just apply some light blurring which is the popular form of AA these days. It doesn't take that much of a performance hit.
I doubt they'd bother for console though.
What are peoples thoughts on where these new consoles sit with regards to the 'gen-cycle'. Are they just UHD versions of current consoles or do people feel they are true next gen consoles? It'll have been 4 years since the current gen started so I am still unsure what to thing.
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It's here and it's only £250 
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Wonder how long until they announce Rift support.
It's a bit strange tbh as it's not as if it's going to be released soon or in time for Xmas but Xmas 2017, which will be 4 years since they originally released, it's been marketed as a 4k xbox one but imo they should just just start a new gen with it even if it they hold it back a little longer and make it more powerful, this "scorpio" goes against the "golden rule" of consoles, a unified architecture where everybody gets the same experience, also this will put the next gen of consoles back to 2020-2022
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I really want to get an Xbox one and Im pleased I held off getting a one a few months ago now with this new slim news.
Im just undecided on the neo and scorpio, I don't plan on getting both of these. Will decide on one or the other once all specs are set in stone.
If essentially is the next generation. I think the days of 8 year life cycles are over.
Expect to see an update every four years with the ability for backwards capability. Give it a year and you will begin to see Scorpion / Neo only titles I'm sure of it.
Expect to see an update every four years with the ability for backwards capability. Give it a year and you will begin to see Scorpion / Neo only titles I'm sure of it.
To be fair, 4 years isn't drastically short, previous gens (excluding last gen) are usually around 5 years or so. This gen was called short slightly because the limitations of the hardware were reached more quickly, that may be a mix of weak hardware and x86 architecture, making it easier to max out.
c'mon. do you really expect nintendo to keep up with this power war ? its not their style and never has been. The lure to nintendo has always been their excellent platform exclusives which are unlike anything on the other platforms.
It has been their style before, only the Wii and Wii U bucked this trend. The Gamecube was more powerful than PS2 and only slightly behind the XBOX, the N64 smashed the PSX and Saturn and SNES was more powerful than the Mega Drive. One can hope for a return to form, however I certainly doubt it.
If they want to stay in the home console market I feel Nitnendo do have to man up spec wise. The novelty of the Wii wore off fast and the pad never really did anything for the WiiU. Sales for the latter being poor by any standards. Nintendo exclusives plus powerful tech would be epic and attract a tonne of ppl. Nintendo exclusives plus so so tech will be enough for a small no. of loyal fans - a group steadily getting smaller and smaller each generation - only.
They will go back on form with Tatsumi Kimishima in charge, the one guy who was against the Wii U and I think the original Wii also.
Rumours are going around production of the NX has been put on hold to draft in specs for VR. That's an indication Nintendo are thinking about power and its performance.
To be fair, this is the first console with Phil Spencer at the helm. This guy doesn't spout bullcrap like Don Mattress. So I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
No they haven't - quite the opposite actually. While I get the hype - announcing something 12months+ early because of a competing console that isn't due to be announced isn't on face value a coup.
All they've done is removed the spotlight from the XO Slim...
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Exactly. I think the XO Slim has it's potential sales damaged by this announcement. Now people will ignore the XO Slim and wait for the Scorpio instead. Also, they made the same mistake as Nintendo, announcing new hardware long before it releases. Expect many BS Scorpio rumours to now surface to take advantage of lack of actual news.
They should have really left the announcement till E3 2017. It's better to announce something and to be actually able to show it off and then say: "It's coming this year."
To be fair, new hardware was Nintendo's idea much sooner. The other 2 are jumping on the bandwagon by the looks of things and of course Nintendo will be the one to suffer. As I said above, announcing new hardware too early is of no benefit to anyone. They should have kept their mouth shut about it all, screw the investor meetings. Just say "we're working on something big/new" instead.
To me, this looks like the Scorpio is a reply to the PSNEO, which was a reply to the NX. If the next console gen comes in this early, rushed and blurred (all 3 have mentioned their new systems aren't replacements for current hardware) it's looking to be very half-arsed for next gen at this rate.
Interesting they categorically said Scorpio will be the most powerful console on release. That's a pretty bold statement to make unless you already know the specs of the competing console, have tied up an exclusive deal for the top end console GPU/CPU for next gen or have left enough wiggle room to up spec if needed between now and then. 4K VR could be a real doozy...
Pragmatically there's no way MS can allow Xbox to not be the most powerful console for the next gen after the XB1/PS4 thing even if they have to throw billions at the project.
For me the buy once, play on PC and Xbox is interesting as I'm generally a PC gamer but enjoy X1 games with friends. Coupled with backwards compatibility even to 360 MS seems to be finally getting back into its stride for gamers, doing penance for Games for Windows
+1 Nobody knows jack about any of the consoles. For all we know, the Scorpio could releas last and be the weakest... that said they will have some time after the other 2 release to hurriedly try and fix things if it ends up being too weak.
And as you say... overall it's partially pointless having multiple levels of consoles... might as well get a PC. Consoles are the place where games are easy to access and play, PC is the place where one goes for the best performance/visuals.
This to me looks like they're trying to really blur the lines between PC and consoles. I'd much prefer consoles to stay consoles and PC to stay PC. As Richard on DF mentioned, the strength of consoles is that they have fixed hardware specs. With these supposed mid-gen 'non-replacement' consoles, there will now be an awful lot of hardware variation, thus taking that strength away from consoles as a whole.
Apologies if I appear too cynical, but why bother when I can just play these games on PC instead? Plus I'd probably end up getting one of these anyway if it's going to release ages away. Just to have an Xbox One of sorts.
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Doubt it. They would have been working on Scorpio since the Xbone launched with its computational deficit. The Neo is probably more to do with PS VR, not Nintendo.
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What, three? Hardly difficult compared to the multitude of PC configurations.