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I thought this thread was about how badly the OP manages his life?

The only thing good about that video was the punch. The guy is obviously mentally ill and / or on drugs. Yes, he is appalling. Yes, I understand people were upset at his racist ranting and rightly so. No, it is not OK to commit ABH. Yes, do help a racist - the woman so woke that she would rather see someone potentially die on the floor becuase of something (appalling) he said, rather than be helped is perhaps the most shameful in this sorry bunch.

Spot on.
 
I try to ignore all lunatics.

For example I was in the supermarket with the mrs ordering a pizza at the pizza counter. A group of Asian youths around 16+ years old start trying to interrupt and order from the lady while I'm picking my toppings, so i turn around and say, "Do you mind", so they back off a few feet and congregate in a group of about 5 - 6 chatting.

Anyway i move away to get something from an end Isle nearby and can hear them saying things about me under their breath, so i turn, look at them to show i heard and then continue about my shopping.

Do I want to get arrested for assaulting a 16 year old no? Do I want to get mobbed by 6 lads? No.

But thats the joys of living in oldham. Lovely friendly and respectful community.

I'm sure this was a very important detail for you to include.

But thats the joys of living in oldham. Lovely friendly and respectful community.

If you don't like it, move. That's how it works right?
 
As someone who has a criminal record for affray, (after someone attacked me for no reason) I think the OP did the right thing.

If someone is being aggressive towards you, and you can make a quiet exit and escape, it's by far the best way of solving the problem. The moment you try to prove a point, by having some sort of altercation, it all becomes meaningless when you get locked into the back of a police van, then into a cell for 16-20 hours, it ******* sucks.

I'm more than capable of defending myself, but unless i'm backed into a corner with nowhere to go - I'll retreat every time and try to avoid getting into anything, because I've been there, and the aftermath is no fun at all.

Spot on yet there are people who will think you are weak. Last time I posted almost the same thing I got nasty DM calling me a wuss and weak and pathetic and saying they felt sorry for my wife that i wasn't an alpha male.
 
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The number of "wannabe hard men" in this thread acting all billy-big-balls like they would have faced up to the guy is laughable.

Take a pretty good bet 99% of all of you idiots talking "alpha" nonsense would have tucked your tail between your legs and ran like a little girl, yet you try and mock the OP for avoiding a physical confrontation.

Utterly hilarious. It truly demonstrates the total ignorance, stupidity and lack of self-awareness you people have.

You're hiding behind your keyboards, talking a big game, mocking the OP. You sure are big boys. real tough.

Grow up kids.
 
Odd that you have an issue with that but not the sex or age statements.

Indeed not just verbal threats of violence were made but i believe it to have been a racially prejudiced attack too.

For example if both I and the woman serving were part of the Asian community, I very much doubt they would have interrupted.
 
Indeed not just verbal threats of violence were made but i believe it to have been a racially prejudiced attack too.

For example if both I and the woman serving were part of the Asian community, I very much doubt they would have interrupted.

Can you back that up with any type of quantifiable evidence?

Or are we just meant to take your "feels" on the situation as factual?

It's just as likely a bunch of disrespectful 16yr olds would have talked **** at you regardless of your race, ethnicity or gender.

You are the one trying to turn this into "They were doing it because we're white".

Says a lot about your attitude and mentality.
 
Spot on yet there are people who will think you are weak. Last time I posted almost the same thing I got nasty DM calling me a wuss and weak and pathetic and saying they felt sorry for my wife that i wasn't an alpha male.

I also think that most people don't really understand how the 'system' works, if you get caught up in it.

EG; If in the case of the OP, somebody is being aggressive for no reason and it ends up in a physical altercation, where both parties take a few chunks out of each other, chances are the police will catch up with, and arrest both of them, under section 4 / public order, etc.

Even if the aggressor started it, once you've been arrested you have to prove it, in a 'his word vs mine' situation. And the moment you claim you acted in self defence - you're charged and the whole thing gets dragged into court, because the police can't determine whether something is self defence or not, only a court can do that. The whole thing just becomes a ******** nightmare, and is basically 100x worse than any fight you'd ever get into, win or lose. If you're lucky you'll get a caution and a record on the PNC which will be there until you're 100 years old.

Basically, if you're a run of the mill person, who has a career/prospects/intelligence, you'll not want any of the above, at all, ever.
 
The number of "wannabe hard men" in this thread acting all billy-big-balls like they would have faced up to the guy is laughable.

Take a pretty good bet 99% of all of you idiots talking "alpha" nonsense would have tucked your tail between your legs and ran like a little girl, yet you try and mock the OP for avoiding a physical confrontation.

Utterly hilarious. It truly demonstrates the total ignorance, stupidity and lack of self-awareness you people have.

You're hiding behind your keyboards, talking a big game, mocking the OP. You sure are big boys. real tough.

Grow up kids.

Not everyone on this forum is a computer nerd afraid of their own shadow you know, some of us actually have a spine and would rather not be a human carpet. I would have (and have done on a number of occasions) confronted guys like this and they tend to lose interest when they realise you aren’t afraid of them and will follow through.
 
Not everyone on this forum is a computer nerd afraid of their own shadow you know, some of us actually have a spine and would rather not be a human carpet. I would have (and have done on a number of occasions) confronted guys like this and they tend to lose interest when they realise you aren’t afraid of them and will follow through.
Awesome. We have a winner here. Not.
 
Not everyone on this forum is a computer nerd afraid of their own shadow you know, some of us actually have a spine and would rather not be a human carpet. I would have (and have done on a number of occasions) confronted guys like this and they tend to lose interest when they realise you aren’t afraid of them and will follow through.

Spot on.
 
Ahh well there’s always the side door for you :)
Definitely. I'm not 12 and think I'm invincible or watch too many Bruce Lee films.
I also don't attribute being a "man" to being up for a fight.
Your mentality is probably the exact mentality the other guy in the OP had.

I just hope your not unlucky enough to bump into the one guy that one time that you front up to and he stabs or shoots you because he's a man just like you and has a "spine" and can't back down because that's being soft.
 
I just hope your not unlucky enough to bump into the one guy that one time that you front up to and he stabs or shoots you because he's a man just like you and has a "spine".

And that there, is exactly the point, bang on.

There's always somebody nastier, bigger, more ferocious - especially if drugs are involved (which they are frequently)

Most of the people saying they wouldn't 'allow themselves to be a human carpet' have most likely never had an 'out of the blue' unexpected altercation with anybody in their lives, anybody can put themselves in a hypothetical situation and talk tough, but in reality - the outcome is far from desirable and embarrassing at best, - life wrecking at worst.
 
Can you back that up with any type of quantifiable evidence?

Or are we just meant to take your "feels" on the situation as factual?

It's just as likely a bunch of disrespectful 16yr olds would have talked **** at you regardless of your race, ethnicity or gender.

You are the one trying to turn this into "They were doing it because we're white".

Says a lot about your attitude and mentality.

I said I believe, I didnt state is as fact.
 
And that there, is exactly the point, bang on.

There's always somebody nastier, bigger, more ferocious - especially if drugs are involved (which they are frequently)

Most of the people saying they wouldn't 'allow themselves to be a human carpet' have most likely never had an 'out of the blue' unexpected altercation with anybody in their lives, anybody can put themselves in a hypothetical situation and talk tough, but in reality - the outcome is far from desirable and embarrassing at best, - life wrecking at worst.

Give over pal. Plenty of people have been in the same situations as you and were lucky enough not to get caught by the police in a fight, it happens to most guys at some point or another in their life. It's clearly not ideal but it happens.
 
And that there, is exactly the point, bang on.

There's always somebody nastier, bigger, more ferocious - especially if drugs are involved (which they are frequently)

Most of the people saying they wouldn't 'allow themselves to be a human carpet' have most likely never had an 'out of the blue' unexpected altercation with anybody in their lives, anybody can put themselves in a hypothetical situation and talk tough, but in reality - the outcome is far from desirable and embarrassing at best, - life wrecking at worst.

Exactly this.

It doesn't matter whether your 6ft10 and a black belt in 3 different martial arts... There will always be someone out there who is a bit taller, a bit bigger, a bit stronger, a bit "handier" than you are. Not to mention the increasing propensity for those types of people to be carrying knives these days, does a person really want to risk getting stabbed because they decided to "go all alpha" and end up in a scrap.

Is it worth losing your life over a disagreement in a supermarket about the queues for the tills? Really?
 
Give over pal. Plenty of people have been in the same situations as you and were lucky enough not to get caught by the police in a fight, it happens to most guys at some point or another in their life. It's clearly not ideal but it happens.

Give over pal. Plenty of people have been in the same situations as you and were unlucky enough to end up getting stabbed or seriously assaulted as they under-estimated their opponent.

It was a disagreement over the queue(s) to the till(s) in a supermarket. - Is this really something worth potentially losing your life over?
 
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