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Freefaller said:
Meh. This is such a surreal situation that although you may be right, it's so far fetched that by the time it happens I will be long gone. People travel during times of war - it's risky of course. I'd take my chances.

**** fighting in a pointless war. Pathetic that wars even happen, just corrupt old men wanting to flex their choades in the hope that they can prove something.
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This isn't 1939. If war is declared on GB the whole world is to pot. No one is going anywhere which could be good or bad depending on how you look at it.

Being trained to use firearms or any form of soldier training would be hugely beneficial to survival in this country as it would be dog eat dog if the Dartford tunnel during rush hour is anything to go by!
 
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adam cool dude said:
This isn't 1939. If war is declared on GB the whole world is to pot. No one is going anywhere which could be good or bad depending on how you look at it.

Being trained to use firearms or any form of soldier training would be hugely beneficial to survival in this country as it would be dog eat dog if the Dartford tunnel during rush hour is anything to go by!
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As I said I had to do my call to service having been born in France. I know how to use firearms, I just don't want to.

Though now you mention the dartford crossing... I can already feel the despair kicking in.
 
SPG said:
I would like to see them laugh when they take a punch to the belly and they are doubled up on the floor gagging for air.... You dont see that in a video game though. everyone would tow the line sooner or later and the so called hard asses would soon tow the line when everyone else starts taking **** for them. You might be hard but your not as hard as 4 of soon to be best mates giving you a hard time.

Accidents happen of course and it would be no loss to society either.
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this sprang to mind...

 
The biggest threat I see are the advancements in non-conventional, non-nuclear warfare e.g. cyber, biological, drones etc.

Covid showed how crippled a nation can become without firing a bullet and I wouldn't bet against that in future once it can be targeted to a specific demographic / bloodline etc.

For the latter, remote controlled suicide drones can already chase someone on a motorcycle and kill them. What happens when that is controlled by AI and manufactured in quantity. For example they could be anonymously despatched from international waters and the UK wouldn't have anyone to retaliate against.

Seems like drones are viewed as something confined to Ukraine and ME but could easily become a problem for Western countries. I don't see how boots on home soil will help there.

Also the safety of nuclear weapons are a bit of a crutch in modern times. As important as they are, other technologies will improve and we can no longer rely on mutual assured destruction or non-proliferation treaties. We can only hope we don't live to see something more devastating than the original atomic bomb.
 
NickK said:
I thought one of the issues was that the Typhoon couldn't be made to work on the carriers we have. Thus the move to F35. The carriers currently have a complement of 8 F35 with 24 being war time compliment and a max of 30. It makes sense not to have a large complement on a ship (easy opening target).
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It is correct that it's not possible/practical to navalise the Typhoon but F35 does not replace Typhoon, that is GCAP/Tempest which as said is not til 2035 assuming no delays and likely 5 plus years after that to get anything close to meaningful numbers if F35 is anything to go by. We are down to approx 100 Typhoons that are being worked hard over the next 2 decades assuming no losses. F35 was supposed to be 138 (over the life of the program), we will be lucky to get 90, more likely 72, bearing in mind 138 was already a cut from the plane numbers it replaced (F35 for sure a more capable platform but HMG seem to forget that quantity is a quality all of its own).

Another example is the T45 destroyers, ordered 12, cut to 8 and we got 6. Hollowed-out force is a compliment at this point!
 
The advantage of being an island is Russia can't just do a mindless tank zerg like they tried in Ukraine. They would actually need some kind of strategy, which they never seem to have. Their navy is also pretty weak so that isn't an option for them.

But that won't stop them on the ground in Europe. They'd probably get as far as Germany before they get completely steamrolled and run out of troops. The only real threat from them to us are nukes.
 
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I just don’t see ‘why’ Russia would want to attack literally the whole of Europe. Like, what is in it for them?? Not to mention the protection afforded to us from the USA. It’s pointless.
 
Folks already prepping ? digging tunnels, shelters (dlockers planning his) in the back garden, stockpiling bully beef and toilet rolls;

level of obesity amongst the population isn't going to make us very competent , if it's predominately a cyber war may not matter, if the numeracy level is good.
 
Good idea, make everyone on universal credit wave 1, wave 2 can be all the prisoners, wave 3 the homeless.

Tidy the country up no end.
 
Freefaller said:
how do you mean the ones not in the armed forces would be shot first?

Anyway I'd be out of this country ASAP if war was declared. I have no interest in getting involved.
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Where would you go and how would you get there?

Assuming the war is war is in Europe, most places in europe is probably out of the question (and if not youd be in the same position, but just for another country who hasnt housed you for a long time) and I can't imagine many countries wanting to take British on flying away from war. Flights will probably be banned too if stuff got that serious.
 
jpaul said:
Folks already prepping ? digging tunnels, shelters (dlockers planning his) in the back garden, stockpiling bully beef and toilet rolls;

level of obesity amongst the population isn't going to make us very competent , if it's predominately a cyber war may not matter, if the numeracy level is good.
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We have camping gear ready not so much as a prepper thing but more that we like to go camping so is easy to just get out for the weekend without any prep.

We always keep a draw fully of batteries and torches etc but I guess that is an old habit from the power cut 90's passed on from father to son.

In this country I think prepping is pretty pointless unless you live on a large estate as nosey neighbours will find out. As is running away as the roads would be gridlocked as we are just too packed these days.
 
Ayahuasca said:
He's not just the news to people, and I wasn't talking about just reading or watching the news. It's become more than that, where they rant and rave about someone on an almost daily basis. If it's not him, it's some other politician or event. Imagine if they spent that time focusing on themselves instead, rather than on an external factor they can do little to nothing about, other than when it comes to voting.

Social media is already regulated by governments and while more could be done, those who are adults need to take some responsibility and realise how much it's affecting their outlook.
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This is a pretty great take (emphasis mine) but extends to everything not simply forums, opinions, and social media. Be your own boat but listen when the lighthouse suggests rocks ahead.
 
Ayahuasca said:
He's not just the news to people, and I wasn't talking about just reading or watching the news. It's become more than that, where they rant and rave about someone on an almost daily basis. If it's not him, it's some other politician or event. Imagine if they spent that time focusing on themselves instead, rather than on an external factor they can do little to nothing about, other than when it comes to voting.

Social media is already regulated by governments and while more could be done, those who are adults need to take some responsibility and realise how much it's affecting their outlook.
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One for you:

www.engadget.com

New York City has designated social media as a ‘public health hazard’

New York City has officially become the first city in the US to designate social media as a “public health hazard.”
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Begbie said:
Where would you go and how would you get there?

Assuming the war is war is in Europe, most places in europe is probably out of the question (and if not youd be in the same position, but just for another country who hasnt housed you for a long time) and I can't imagine many countries wanting to take British on flying away from war. Flights will probably be banned too if stuff got that serious.
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As this is all theoretical and won't happen, I'd probably leave at the merest of hints of something like this happening. If I missed the boat so to speak. Then I'd get as far away from the capital as possible. I know how to sail, might even try my luck at sailing somewhere. Hopefully by then I'd have moved anyway. Anyway in this thermotical flight of fancy travel would still exist, it'd just be at your own risk. I find it quite amusing that we're worried about this being a thing.

Anyway this is all good fun, but regardless of the situation, you still won't find me signing up and pledging allegiance and all that rubbish. If whatever happens happens, by the time the UK is the last man standing there's **** all we can do about it anyway.
 
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