Zouma - bit of a ****

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Blackjack Davy said:
From watching US shows if theres a suspected case of animal cruelty its the SPCA that will gather evidence and put the case before the prosecuting officer if they think theres a case to answer rather than the police getting directly involved, not sure of the routine over here but considering that video footage exists I'd be surprised and frankly disgusted if no action was taken by somebody



Wasn't there a case of a primary teacher recently recorded beating a horse that got the sack as a result?

edit yep: https://news.sky.com/story/primary-...f-woman-kicking-and-punching-a-horse-12501125
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Yes, but she didn’t cost her employers £30m to recruit
 
omnomnom said:
It isnt illegal but its a lot more damaging.

Im not saying he shouldnt face action but lets not be hypocrites here. Calling for his career to be finished, 6 months stints in jail and fed to a tiger is a bit much.
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This is just one video that happened to be filmed and released. What other things do you think he gets up to off camera? People like this shouldn't be representing ANY football club. His right to play professional football should be removed permanently.
 
Stumble Bum said:
This is just one video that happened to be filmed and released. What other things do you think he gets up to off camera? People like this shouldn't be representing ANY football club. His right to play professional football should be removed permanently.
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And people who abuse animals often end up abusing people. In this case, you wonder about the safety of his children too.
 
Stumble Bum said:
This is just one video that happened to be filmed and released. What other things do you think he gets up to off camera? People like this shouldn't be representing ANY football club. His right to play professional football should be removed permanently.
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I think this is a bit much. He should be punished but not allowing him to play football ever again is wrong.

ttaskmaster said:
It's not just that he slapped and booted a cat around.
As a representative of a football club, abusing an animal, doing so for amusement, and effectively bragging about it to the general public is what ought to end his career.
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I mean look at certain owners at football clubs. Football is riddled with wrong uns, always has been...always will be.
 
Ayahuasca said:
So that's the arbritary metric for whether someone should play professional football in this country again?
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Well when you have people who are actually responsible for the death of someone else due to them doing 70 in a 30 whilst drunk playing in this country then I'm sorry but kicking a cat doesn't hit that bar I'm afraid. Then you have Luke McCormack who did similar and killed two children.

IF you argue that none of them should be playing then id go along with that for sure but you cant stop someone making a living for doing what Zoumas done when you have the likes of Alonso and Luke McCormack still playing.
 
omnomnom said:
Well when you have people who are actually responsible for the death of someone else due to them doing 70 in a 30 whilst drunk playing in this country then I'm sorry but kicking a cat doesn't hit that bar I'm afraid. Then you have Luke McCormack who did similar and killed two children.

IF you argue that none of them should be playing then id go along with that for sure but you cant stop someone making a living for doing what Zoumas done when you have the likes of Alonso and Luke McCormack still playing.
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Both 'served their time', Alonso getting away with it fairly lightly. Zouma should suffer some consequences and serve his too, be that a prosecution, suspension from the club, or termination of contract.

Awful straw man though. Should be judged on merit, Zouma being a disgusting human being capable of repeatedly abusing an innocent animal in front of a child with his brother thinking it's funny enough to upload thinking other people would find it funny too :confused:
 
omnomnom said:
IF you argue that none of them should be playing then id go along with that for sure but you cant stop someone making a living for doing what Zoumas done when you have the likes of Alonso and Luke McCormack still playing.
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You can, as fortunately society and the justice system if it goes that way doesn't conflate entirely different crimes.

Why can't you just see it for what it is, instead of comparing it to horse racing and drunk drivers :confused:
 
Ayahuasca said:
You can, as fortunately society and the justice system if it goes that way doesn't conflate entirely different crimes.

Why can't you just see it for what it is, instead of comparing it to horse racing and drunk drivers :confused:
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Because you’re arguing his career should be over yet people who have done far worse are literally still playing the game lmao.
 
omnomnom said:
Because you’re arguing his career should be over yet people who have done far worse are literally still playing the game lmao.
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No, I'm arguing that he likely won't play for West Ham again and hopefully no other English club. If some French side or whatever wants to take him on, then that's another debate.
 
I'd be amazed if Zouma isn't playing for West Ham again within a month. They're not sacking a player they've just spent £30m on 6 months ago. They'll suspend him for a few weeks and he'll go on some sort of educational course and then he'll be brought back into the side.
 
Wasn't there a Netflix documentary about someone who was cruel to a cat, they summised that there is something wrong in that persons brain to enable them to inflict this type of cruelty on a living thing?

Wonder what else he's done off camera? Can't actual believe there are people trying to play this down though in all seriousness.

I wouldn't want him playing for my football team as a Hammer.
 
Ayahuasca said:
No, I'm arguing that he likely won't play for West Ham again and hopefully no other English club. If some French side or whatever wants to take him on, then that's another debate.
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I was responding to someone who said his right to play football should be taken away permanently...


JamesH85 said:
Wasn't there a Netflix documentary about someone who was cruel to a cat, they summised that there is something wrong in that persons brain to enable them to inflict this type of cruelty on a living thing?

Wonder what else he's done off camera? Can't actual believe there are people trying to play this down though in all seriousness.

I wouldn't want him playing for my football team as a Hammer.
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Who's playing it down? Im certainly not im just saying to say his right to play football should be taken away is ridiculous...which it is.

It needs looking into and investigating properly but if we are going off what we know then he should be punished accordingly. If more comes to light then that changes things.

There was a documentary...are you honestly comparing someone kicking a cat to one boy two kittens?
 
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