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Well can it run Deus Ex MD ?

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Downloading the game now.

AFAIK DX12 is not available yet in this game, so i wouldn't read too much into those results until it is officially available in the game.
 
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All the people saying buy the 980ti as it is a bargain and a better buy than the 1070 will be disappointed.
Plus the fact that the Fury X is over 10 frames slower in DX12 than it was in DX11 is sad.

I wonder how many more games will suffer before the Dev's get used to the api and get it right?

1070 and 980ti same speed in dx11????? :confused:
 
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Are people whinging because its actually bad performance or because they cant max it out?

Because it doesnt look fantastic graphics wise yet runs like a dog on 1080p.

When you get 1080s and titans managing to scrap a playable 60 fps at 1080p then something is wrong.

Of course some people would "claim" that like consoles, 30 fps is sufficient and that is exactly what the developers have targeted here.

If the game was the most stunning drop dead gorgeous game ever made then I could forgive it. Crysis 3 looks better IMO
 
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so, is this 2007 all over again with Crysis or just poor optimisation ??

speaking of which.... kaap, have you run Crysis on your Titan SLi yet? would love to see that in 4k :D
 
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this is just salty taste because i can't max it out. they clearly stated ultra was for future hardware so why are people expecting to play it on ultra at 4k with 60fps

literally crank everything up to full on 4k and even if your getting 6fps just stop and look at the amount of detail on items and in the shadows, it's all the little bits that add up


NIXXES GUIDE READ IT BEFORE MOANING AND ADJUST SETTINGS ACCORDINGLY
Display

The first Options screen to check should always be the Display options.
Resolution: Higher resolutions can cost a lot of GPU power, and performance will often scale proportionally to the resolution. Especially close to minimum spec it may be worth it to run at a lower resolution while maintaining a higher graphics quality level.

Another option available in the Display menu is the MSAA setting. We offer three very high-end AA modes, MSAA 2x, MSAA 4x and MSAA 8x. Note that using these can have a very severe performance impact, so only use these when you have plenty of hardware power available relative to the resolution you are running at (for example with SLI). Note that we also offer the affordable AA method TAA which is located in the Graphics options.

Both of the options in the display menu only impact the GPU performance, not the CPU performance. If you are CPU bottlenecked reducing any of the settings here will not help you.


Graphics

The graphics menu has the largest number of options, and the performance of each individual one is limited, but all turned up together can severely impact frame rate when the hardware is not up to the task.

Preset
There are simply suggestions for different quality levels, feel free to use them, but for the best experience tuned to your personal preference, please tune the other options below and have this be Custom.

Texture Quality
This alters the resolution of textures used in the game. This primarily impacts GPU memory pressure. If this is set too high the game may start stuttering and slowing down. It does not impact performance on the GPU or the CPU much otherwise. We recommend it at High for 4GB cards. You have to restart the game to apply changes to Texture Quality.

Texture Filtering
This is an all-time PC gaming classic. Turn it up for sharper textures at an angle. We feel that the moderate amount of 4x gives very good results. Altering only impacts GPU performance.

Shadow Quality
This setting impacts the resolution of shadows rendered throughout the game. At high settings shadows become crisp and lose pixelated artifacts. At lower settings they are chunkier. Altering only impacts GPU performance. Very high can be relatively expensive for the GPU.

Contact Hardening Shadows
Turning this on creates more realistic shadows as they move away from their source. This only impacts GPU performance.

Temporal Anti-Aliasing
Toggling this on will reduce aliasing to create a smoother image. This only impacts GPU performance.

Motion Blur
Fast camera and object motion will appear smoother. This only impacts GPU performance.

Depth of Field
Depth of Field can blur areas on screen that are out of focus, typically when far away. This only impacts GPU performance.

Bloom
When turned on bright spots on the screen will bleed out, adding to the illusion of bright light. This only impacts GPU performance.

Volumetric Lighting
Turning this on adds volumetric lighting to some fog and smoke effects. This only impacts GPU performance.
Setting it to Ultra increases detail but has a significant impact on GPU performance!

Subsurface Scattering
Improves lighting effects on the skin of characters in the game. This only impacts GPU performance.

Cloth Physics
Disabling this reduces the quality of cloth simulation. This only impacts CPU performance.

Ambient Occlusion
This toggles on and between different ambient occlusion algorithms. This only impacts GPU performance.

Tessellation
Turning this option on smooths selected meshes throughout the game by tessellating them. This option impacts GPU performance, and to a lesser extent CPU performance.

Parallax Occlusion Mapping
Adds additional depth and detail to select surfaces, such as brick walls and cobblestone streets. This only impacts GPU performance.

Screenspace Reflections
When this option is turned on dynamic reflections are calculated based on other items visible on the screen. Turning it up to Ultra gives you more detail in the reflections. This only impacts GPU performance.

Sharpen & Chromatic Aberration
Camera effects that can be toggled on or off. This has a minimal impact on GPU performance.

Level of Detail
This influences the detail level of rendered meshes, and the distance at which they disappear entirely. Lower settings can significantly help CPU performance due to it having to process fewer objects. GPU performance is also impacted.
 
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this is just salty taste because i can't max it out. they clearly stated ultra was for future hardware so why are people expecting to play it on ultra at 4k with 60fps

literally crank everything up to full on 4k and even if your getting 6fps just stop and look at the amount of detail on items and in the shadows, it's all the little bits that add up


NIXXES TWEAKING GUIDE TRY IT BEFORE MOANING

It is not about Maxing out. Game does not even come close to Crysis 2 on DX9, which even GTX 280 gets 50-60fps on high.

On Ultra even GTX 1080 cannot maintain 60fps properly on 1080p.
 
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Well Deus Ex Mankind Divided run better on Nvidia with both DirectX 11 and DirectX 12 than AMD but DirectX 12 is slower than DirectX 11.

http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/deus-ex-mankind-divided-test-gpu

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Interesting thing about GTX 1070 is 25% faster than GTX 980 Ti on DirectX 12.


Nvidia are not doing better than amd if you look at the comparison correctly though (dx11 only, dx12 is pointless atm).

Furyx is beating 1070

480 is beating 980 comfortably.

290x beating 970 (and 290(non x) doing it too).

380x equal (or beating max) 780ti

and even the 280x is not that far behind the 780 (or the orig titan on max frames!)

Seems to be AMD are doing quite well IMO. Hopefully when dx12 is fully functional this game will be playable on all cards and give a boost to all! Shocking performance atm though. I certianly wont be purchasing until so.
 
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so, is this 2007 all over again with Crysis or just poor optimisation ??

speaking of which.... kaap, have you run Crysis on your Titan SLi yet? would love to see that in 4k :D

Done it several times, it's easy. Shame my 60htz monitor can't keep up.:D

Crysis one is a CPU bottleneck not a GPU one these days.

Deus Ex MD is a GPU intensive game.

You can get playable fps on a Pascal Titan @1080p by turning off MSAA. I don't think this is the game devs finest hour.:eek:

And NVidia were telling us we don't need mGPU with Pascal.:D
 
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It is not about Maxing out. Game does not even come close to Crysis 2 on DX9, which even GTX 280 gets 50-60fps on high.

On Ultra even GTX 1080 cannot maintain 60fps properly on 1080p.

I'D seriously consider an eye sight test if you really think crysis 2 looks better than mankind divided, they are not even the same type of game they are very visually different, crysis 2 is very bright open areas wit lots of greenery dues ex is supposed to be more noir, grey and faded washed colours, the detail in some items is far superior to anything crysis 2 has to offer
 
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Done it several times, it's easy. Shame my 60htz monitor can't keep up.:D

Crysis one is a CPU bottleneck not a GPU one these days.

Deus Ex MD is a GPU intensive game.

You can get playable fps on a Pascal Titan @1080p by turning off MSAA. I don't think this is the game devs finest hour.:eek:

And NVidia were telling us we don't need mGPU with Pascal.:D

MSAA annihilates FPS on this game.
 
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