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Morba · 17 Sep 2012 at 16:31

sigma said:
How does one get so much depth in squats without the hips exploding?

He's actually 5" above depth, its clearly clever camera angles being employed!

tbh i didn't notice depth either, just the pressups into no handed flapping or whatever it is.
No doubt its some crossfit WOD.

Delvis · 17 Sep 2012 at 16:32

Ultra_Extreme said:
By not being a complete $£$$y

Bearing in mind he can't see your posts, that's kind of a moot point...I bet your but tucks all over the place

You've just been lucky enough for it not to effet you yet

LiE · 17 Sep 2012 at 16:33

It's high bar, that's normal depth.

Syla5 · 17 Sep 2012 at 17:55

Strong squatting sm'ed

Sigma, deadlifting is not bad. The second rep there's to much back arching from the beginning, but you said you rushed a little due to grip, never rush a rm or any heavy reps for that matter.

As for chalk, there is no reason why your gym would have an issue with liquid chalk, it only makes a mess of your own hands!

http://www.myprotein.com/uk/product...m_medium=cpc&gclid=CLPrpsaJvbICFQMMfAodW1gASA

MoNkeE · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:03

Delvis said:
Bearing in mind he can't see your posts, that's kind of a moot point...I bet your but tucks all over the place You've just been lucky enough for it not to effet you yet

Yeah UE, bet you don't even know how to deadlift, you've just not exploded in to a million pieces as if you're made out of glass yet.

Hang on a minute.......... Wrong person!

sigma · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:09

LiE said:
It's high bar, that's normal depth.

Normal for some, yes, I can't seem to hit that depth without all hell breaking loose - well, tightening up to be precise. Need to do more mobility shizz I guess.

Syla5 said:
Sigma, deadlifting is not bad. The second rep there's to much back arching from the beginning, but you said you rushed a little due to grip, never rush a rm or any heavy reps for that matter.

Can you explain a bit more please? I can't see much difference between the two? I only rushed after I got it above the knees and then didn't thrust too much as it was starting to slip so I got it down asap, I don't feel that I rushed the set up or start of the lift.

MoNkeE said:
Yeah UE, bet you don't even know how to deadlift, you've just not exploded in to a million pieces as if you're made out of glass yet.

Hang on a minute.......... Wrong person!

Who gives a flying **** what UE thinks?

I might not be Mr Perfect but at least I'm not Mr Cheat.

Syla5 · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:15

sigma said:
Normal for some, yes, I can't seem to hit that depth without all hell breaking loose - well, tightening up to be precise. Need to do more mobility shizz I guess.

Can you explain a bit more please? I can't see much difference between the two? I only rushed after I got it above the knees and then didn't thrust too much as it was starting to slip so I got it down asap, I don't feel that I rushed the set up or start of the lift.
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First bit, SM'ed is high bar squatting, that depth is a lot easier to achieve while high bar squatting, even tight you would be able to get close to that with no problems sig.

Watch the second vid, you go to setup and your lower back is already rounded erode you started to lift the weight. I wasn't taking anything away from the lift, it just looked like you rushed in to the lift, as on your previous loft you lock in better and only start to lose the lower back part way through. For RM territory it's nothing major, but considering it looks like you have anther 15kg in the bag, it could have been tighter. Keep at it though

Deception · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:15

sigma said:
Who gives a flying **** what UE thinks?

I might not be Mr Perfect but at least I'm not Mr Cheat.

Where is the love..

sigma · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:17

Syla5 said:
First bit, SM'ed is high bar squatting, that depth is a lot easier to achieve while high bar squatting, even tight you would be able to get close to that with no problems sig.

Watch the second vid, you go to setup and your lower back is already rounded erode you started to lift the weight. I wasn't taking anything away from the lift, it just looked like you rushed in to the lift, as on your previous loft you lock in better and only start to lose the lower back part way through. For RM territory it's nothing major, but considering it looks like you have anther 15kg in the bag, it could have been tighter. Keep at it though

I will take that on board. Regarding the squatting, I would explain a bit more about things but I'll only come across as whining so I'll not bother

Deception said:
Where is the love..

Guessing you didn't read what he wrote?

Ultra_Extreme · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:23

MoNkeE said:
Yeah UE, bet you don't even know how to deadlift, you've just not exploded in to a million pieces as if you're made out of glass yet.

Hang on a minute.......... Wrong person!

Ill have you know i explode several times but im like T2 i just liquify and reform bigger than ever! "Dur-dur dur-dur-duh-dur doooooo-do-dooooo do-do-doooooooo..."

Syla5 · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:29

sigma said:
I will take that on board. Regarding the squatting, I would explain a bit more about things but I'll only come across as whining so I'll not bother

from watching you do front squats, I think, at the meet, you were hitting similar depth just fine, so other then flexibility work to stop your hips feeling like they want to explode I can't see why that depth is so hard to achieve. I think you underestimate yourself sometimes

Skillmister · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:31

sigma said:
Who gives a flying **** what UE thinks?

I might not be Mr Perfect but at least I'm not Mr Cheat.

LOL

sigma · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:42

Syla5 said:
from watching you do front squats, I think, at the meet, you were hitting similar depth just fine, so other then flexibility work to stop your hips feeling like they want to explode I can't see why that depth is so hard to achieve. I think you underestimate yourself sometimes

I was talking to Steedie about it at the meet, I sometimes get the same muscle cramping up when doing heavy BB chest press! It only really happens at heavier weights, at the meet we were doing low weights with high reps.

Going by this diagram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anterior_Hip_Muscles_2.PNG it's the iliacus that is the one causing the problem but I'm a noob who has no actual idea so who knows.

Delvis · 17 Sep 2012 at 18:45

Simple tonight, had to cut it short:

Squats: 3x3x65kg

Then supersetted leg extentsions with leg curls.

Pleased with the squats, just gotta keep the back in check and watch depth.

MoNkeE said:
Yeah UE, bet you don't even know how to deadlift, you've just not exploded in to a million pieces as if you're made out of glass yet.

Hang on a minute.......... Wrong person!

Fnar fnar

Skillmister · 17 Sep 2012 at 19:04

sigma said:
I sometimes get the same muscle cramping up when doing heavy BB chest press! It only really happens at heavier weights, at the meet we were doing low weights with high reps.

LOL i get this! I thought it was just me! Every single time i bench i get that cramping up a bit, especially if its heavy

sigma · 17 Sep 2012 at 19:10

Fluttershy said:
LOL i get this! I thought it was just me! Every single time i bench i get that cramping up a bit, especially if its heavy

It's bloody annoying, usually end up flapping about like a fish out of water.

Imagine a similar pain/feeling at the bottom of a squat, not good.

Syla5 · 17 Sep 2012 at 19:17

sigma said:
I was talking to Steedie about it at the meet, I sometimes get the same muscle cramping up when doing heavy BB chest press! It only really happens at heavier weights, at the meet we were doing low weights with high reps.

Going by this diagram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anterior_Hip_Muscles_2.PNG it's the iliacus that is the one causing the problem but I'm a noob who has no actual idea so who knows.

Do you do the hip opener stretches before squatting? If not try it

sigma · 17 Sep 2012 at 19:33

I do, along with lubrication exercises.

icecold · 17 Sep 2012 at 19:53

sigma said:
I was talking to Steedie about it at the meet, I sometimes get the same muscle cramping up when doing heavy BB chest press! It only really happens at heavier weights, at the meet we were doing low weights with high reps.

Going by this diagram http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anterior_Hip_Muscles_2.PNG it's the iliacus that is the one causing the problem but I'm a noob who has no actual idea so who knows.

It's not the iliacus, it's one/all of: sartorius, TFL, all proximal quad insertions. Iliacus is a lot more internal.

SMed · 17 Sep 2012 at 22:02

LiE said:
It's high bar, that's normal depth.

Syla5 said:
First bit, SM'ed is high bar squatting, that depth is a lot easier to achieve while high bar squatting, even tight you would be able to get close to that with no problems sig.

I squat low-bar. Probably just the angle, I'll get a better vid next time to show you. It's not super-low, but what I'd consider a conservative low-bar squat. Unless I've been wrong all these years.

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