ISIS and Islamic militants - discussion

badcompany · 21 Aug 2014 at 21:01

Name and shame the families who have kids over there?
They must know what they up going for or some of them will do.

Mynight · 21 Aug 2014 at 21:07

Was kinda thinking about setting up a website with pictures and names of all confirmed to have gone over there.

Bound to get bent over by the legal brigade though

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Tefal · 21 Aug 2014 at 23:12

OldCoals said:
What the politicians need to understand is that you can't "beat" an ideology with 5.56 rounds and precision guided munitions.

indeed 7.62 is much more effective.

Trusty · 21 Aug 2014 at 23:37

edit..ignore

delta0 · 21 Aug 2014 at 23:51

Poor guy James. Hope there are no more. It is pretty desperate that they are sinking to these levels.

Merlin5 · 22 Aug 2014 at 02:07

I don't know if this is in the thread already. Was just watching sky news who said 12 FBI agents have come to the UK to help the government in the search/identification of 'jihadist john'. America thinks, quite rightly, the UK is a soft touch for and a breeding ground for extremists. They're actually calling it Londonistan (an old term we've known for ages).

Mynight · 22 Aug 2014 at 02:31

Ha brilliant. How sad the Americans and we know but the government doesn't seem to realise :confused:

Danthus · 22 Aug 2014 at 07:32

Tefal said:
indeed 7.62 is much more effective.

Allnamestaken · 22 Aug 2014 at 08:08

Gosh if only there was a way we could teleport these lunatics into space and attach them to a rocket pointed directly at the sun.

badcompany · 22 Aug 2014 at 08:10

Do we need to have public groups look for and name these people if the government is to scared to do this?

MeEsH BaKkA · 22 Aug 2014 at 08:17

Merlin5 said:
I don't know if this is in the thread already. Was just watching sky news who said 12 FBI agents have come to the UK to help the government in the search/identification of 'jihadist john'. America thinks, quite rightly, the UK is a soft touch for and a breeding ground for extremists. They're actually calling it Londonistan (an old term we've known for ages).

I would still rather live in Londonistan than anywhere in Clapistan.

I'm not sure how the extremist problem will be solved easily, family's are quite obviously not runshing forward to tell authority's that their sons are leaving the country to fight for groups like IS and the longer these young men are able to leave this country the bigger the chance it's seen as the edgy or done thing to do.

Look at football violence in this country and how long it has taken for that to be brought under control, that's just groups of men doing silly **** for what they think is cool and the club they support. These ***** fighting for IS believe God is on their side and what they are doing is right.

What do you do? Ban any Muslim from getting on a plane or leaving the country?

Wazz-1 · 22 Aug 2014 at 08:33

MeEsH BaKkA said:
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What do you do? Ban any Muslim from getting on a plane or leaving the country?

No, you let them go and stamp their passport with stay the **** out!

Fuggan · 22 Aug 2014 at 09:12

Not really been following the crisis pre-beheading of Foley.

Just listening to a guy from the Kurdish army on Sky News saying that ISIS have far more ammunition, advanced tanks and arms than their army. Where have they got all this gear from?

kitkat9933 · 22 Aug 2014 at 09:15

Fuggan said:
Not really been following the crisis pre-beheading of Foley.

Just listening to a guy from the Kurdish army on Sky News saying that ISIS have far more ammunition, advanced tanks and arms than their army. Where have they got all this gear from?

The Iraqi army that we and the americans supplied with billions of $$$ of equipment and either its been captured by ISIS or given to them when surrendered. It's a bit like Afghanistan the americans armed the Taliban to fight the Russians and they were the same weapons they used to fight the Americans and US when we invaded later.

Fuggan · 22 Aug 2014 at 09:23

Deary me. What a mess.

gettothechopper · 22 Aug 2014 at 09:37

kitkat9933 said:
The Iraqi army that we and the americans supplied with billions of $$$ of equipment and either its been captured by ISIS or given to them when surrendered. It's a bit like Afghanistan the americans armed the Taliban to fight the Russians and they were the same weapons they used to fight the Americans and US when we invaded later.

The Taliban didnt exist during the Russian occupation.
We armed the Mujahideen who then had a civil war after the Russians left, leaving behind the Northern Alliance on our side and the Tablian on the other

but yes its the same weapons for the most part

FortuitousFluke · 22 Aug 2014 at 09:41

Wazz-1 said:
No, you let them go and stamp their passport with stay the **** out!

How do you monitor it though? I once applied for a job in Lebanon, that would have required me to obviously fly out there and live in the area for a number of months. I could theoretically have hopped the border from there to Syria, probably without using an official crossing. I'm not a muslim and obviously this was a while ago but are we assuming all travel in the area by Muslims is due to them going off to get a bit jihadi with the locals?

HaloUK · 22 Aug 2014 at 09:43

Makes me chuckle all these expensive ways you lot are suggesting getting rid of any captured terrorist scum. Just use the below method (1:58 in), nice and cheap and what they deserve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozb6b8T4J5Y

platypus · 22 Aug 2014 at 09:50

badcompany said:
Do we need to have public groups look for and name these people if the government is to scared to do this?

Yes nothing at all could go wrong with vigilantism.

scorza · 22 Aug 2014 at 10:51

platypus said:
Yes nothing at all could go wrong with vigilantism.

We already have sharia patrols in parts of londonistan - isn't that a form of vigilantism? If the authorities don't want vigilante patrols then they need to get a grip of this problem and quickly, at the moment I'd say the Islamists were way ahead of the police in terms of competence.