Atleast it would have made the Greeks realise that not paying their taxes leads to a failed state.
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Atleast it would have made the Greeks realise that not paying their taxes leads to a failed state.
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Is your latter statement is an explanation of your former statement?
Well, actually to be precise, you are filling a skills gap at a given wage level. If the gap remains unfilled then the wage level increases until someone is incentivised to fill it. I remember the big web boom where there was a shortage of people in this country who could do web design and as a consequence, wages for such people shot up and lots of people sought out training to become web developers because of those wages. If such positions had quickly been filled by immigrants at a lower wage level (due to national differences) then that would not have happened and wages would have remained low.
Goldman Sachs was hired by Greece to help massage their figures to meet the entry requirements. What you say isn't just opinion - Greece should actually not been allowed to join by EU's own criteria.
You do know the Brexit vote alone already damaged the economy? and put back the end of the deficit by years (extending the duration of austerity).
The execution of Brexit is going to cause mass damage as we lose buying power and all our trade deals become weaker.
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I hate comments like the one you qouted.
27 countries losing access to one market is not that bad... (I understand its not evenly split.. The likes of Germany and France do trade more with us... But still)... They can afford to loose us.
UK losing trade to 27 countries (plus china Canada and a few others)... And being left with NO trading partners whatsoever .... With one from the USA likely being hugely unfavourable to the UK..... has far more of an impact.
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So indefinitely then.
When did the Tories become obsessed with austerity? Pre 2010 they never talked about it at all. All those previous years of their Government were a failure on their terms then I assume?
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Also completely ignores why we may make these purchases. Not only will they be stung less due to having multiple countries dampening the minor blow to them but there are good reasons why we do purchase more. Did our country suddenly become self sufficient, with no desire for anything outside the UK? Ofc not and since everyone at the negotiation table knows it, i doubt this will end with us doing anything but paying more for what we already purchase now, whoever it is from.
Its not 3rd world but definitely is poorer then westrn Europe and has some tax issues.
They should have been allowed to join the EU quite so easily and quickly but Goldmansachs had covered up their financial issues. The EU have learned form their mistakes over this and have adapted the entry requirements accordingly.
Smaller and poorer countries are great asset to the EU though in the long term. You just have to see the massive success of the eastern European countries and the massive rise in GDP and thus shared trade. You need to think of it as an investment. You buy a small cheap house in an up and coming area of London, you invest in it with some better infrastructure and repairs, then reap the rewards down the road when the value soars.And by making the EU larger it increases bargining power even more, increases trade volumes, and can limit financial risks through diversification of economies.
Since modern economics and GDP growth has become a thing, we've lived in a boom and bust world. It was claimed in the late 90s and early 00s that we had solved that, and were living in a steady growth world. Except we got carried away again, and as can easily be seen, the Labour govt with Brown holding the purse strings, got carried away and increased the deficit willy nilly. Surprise surprise, after the really nice boom, bust happened again. Yes it was caused by the global crisis and wasn't Labour's fault, but every bust is caused by something.
To me it seems that government spending really should be there for essential services, and to nudge the economy along when it needs it. Not to boost growth as much as possible. High growth should never be the target anymore. Ever. That leaves us overextended in terms of debt, which means higher interest repayments in the case of another financial crisis if credit agencies start to look at repayability.
The Conservatives aren't obsessed with Austerity, but they seem to be the only party to have learned any lessons since the 2008 crash, and don't want to climb aboard the spend spend spend wagon again, which will inevitably lead to more long term economic turmoil in the form of recession.
Yet all youth of these countries flee because there's nothing for them there and they now have an easy road out. Leaving the country rather in a pickle. As we have clearly seen extreme right-wing agendas pop up in these countries where a versatile youth would help contain it... the oldies have increasingly more uncouth say/opinions on their nation.
Which is why they're all political **** holes.
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I am afraid partnerships historically founder when one or more are impoverished spendthrifts (Greece) or have radically different opinions on issues the leading partners hold dear (Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic et al over immigrant quotas). People talk as if EU money has solved Greece's financial crisis, it hasn't it's just a sticking plaster on a festering wound, they should have pulled out and gone back to the Drachma.
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Labours manifesto may have been over optimistic on the extra tax revenue but it was hardly "spend spend spend", it was costed. 
Even if the manifesto was bullet proof costed (which it very obviously wasn't), there is no way I'd trust a government under Corbyn and McDonnell to not begin spending at will after some time had passed. I just don't want to return to that sort of government spending.Labours manifesto may have been over optimistic on the extra tax revenue but it was hardly "spend spend spend", it was costed.
Yes I do OK and look after myself and wouldn't call myself reliant on the state much, so you can call that selfish, but at the same time I see the worst case scenario as another recession and our economy taking a hammering again.
Yet we have no surplus, its been 7 golden years of austerity. The next recession is likely to be on us in the next 3, along with Brexit and a terrible government.
I would have rather just QE'd ourselves out of this mess, but nah let people suffer enough that they die, thats the glorious British way.
I would have rather just QE'd ourselves out of this mess, but nah let people suffer enough that they die, thats the glorious British way.
Given all the rumblings about Brexit strategy after the GE, this was quite interesting:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/14/perks-end-uk-eu-guy-verhofstadt
Surely such a position just encourages pushing on with the existing plan? I can't see there being any enthusiasm for effectively paying the EU more to remain a member?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/14/perks-end-uk-eu-guy-verhofstadt
Surely such a position just encourages pushing on with the existing plan? I can't see there being any enthusiasm for effectively paying the EU more to remain a member?
if you were born in a hospital then you've relied on the NHS, which the conservatives are going to **** right in the ****
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